Yeah, but sometimes you don’t like some of your children.
*From:* Matt Mangriotis
*Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 10:22 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
We love ALL of our children!
*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino A.
Villarini
*Sent:* Friday, July 28, 2017 2:04 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
Ouch! Lol
*From: *Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
*Date: *Friday, July 28, 2017 at 2:22 PM
*To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
EPMP team showing the PMP450 guys how it's done *flex*
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On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 1:47 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists
<jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
First one will look a lot like the Force 180. List is $299.
Full band, full speed.
Second one will look like the Force 200 (scheduled for
October). List is $349 IIRC.
Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
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574-220-7826 <tel:%28574%29%20220-7826> Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
On Jul 28, 2017, at 1:03 PM, Gino A. Villarini
<g...@aeronetpr.com> wrote:
What is the 450b?
On 7/28/17, 12:55 PM, "Af on behalf of Matt Mangriotis"
<af-boun...@afmug.com on behalf of
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
wrote:
>Joe - I just answered your forum post... but might as
well repeat and add
>to it here too.
>
>You guys are right in that the combination of the two
factors are what
>matters to the modulation that the radio will achieve.
You have to be
>above a certain absolute power level (RSL), but ALSO
have enough distance
>(SNR) above the noise to decipher the bits. That is,
even if you're
>receiving the intended signal at -55, but have noise at
-70, the 15 dB
>separation (i.e. SNR) isn't enough to allow for 256QAM
modulation.
>
>Regarding sensitivity levels, the easiest place for me
to find these is
>in the Link Capacity Planner Tool:
>https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/capacityplanner/
<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsupport.cambiumnetworks.com%2Ffiles%2Fcapacityplanner%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cmatt.mangriotis%40cambiumnetworks.com%7C13dfe165df294955425808d4d5eb791b%7C0e263e36340946228ac818d993e76eb6%7C1%7C0%7C636368654723361813&sdata=OZjdEgdNOlKSuSNP261i82pkSU28heLFmo3IIyHE0NE%3D&reserved=0>
>
>You can input the radios you're using and it'll spit
those out.
>
>During final product testing, we've determined that the
450b is
>equivalent to the 450i SM in these specifications, so
until that tool
>gets updated with official numbers (which may vary
slightly), I would use
>that.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Matt
>
>
/*Gino A. Villarini*/
President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
-----Original Message-----
>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Joe
Falaschi
>Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 11:49 AM
>To: af@afmug.com
>Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
>
>Sure it would. We have some links reporting a SNR above
32db, enough to
>get 8x but are weaker than -56 signals. So both matter.
>
>Joe
>
>
>
>> On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:44 AM, Chris Wright
<ch...@velociter.net> wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't SNR play a bigger role than general signal
level? What good is
>>-67.8dBm if the noise floor is -75dBm?
>>
>> Chris Wright
>> Network Administrator
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
Joe Falaschi
>> Sent: Friday, July 28, 2017 9:28 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cambium 450b specifications
>>
>> We¹re looking at some questions of why certain links
are at certain
>>modulations (uplink is better than downlink). It¹s explained by
the
>>spec sheet of the current equipment and RX sensitivity.
Basically the
>>450M AP can do more with less signal than the CPE can.
Specs below. In
>>any case we were then wondering what the new 450b RX
sensitivity would
>>be. There is a spec sheet on the Cambium website but
this isn¹t listed.
>> Anyone have this information?
>>
>> 450M AP RX sensitivity
>> 1x = - 93.5 dBm
>> 2x = -88.6 dBm
>> 4x = -81.5 dBm
>> 6x = -75.9.0 dBm
>> 8x = -67.8 dBm
>>
>> 450SM RX sensitivity
>> 1x = -84 dBm
>> 2x = -80.5 dBm
>> 4x = -74 dBm
>> 6x = -66.9 dBm
>> 8x = -56 dBm
>>
>> 450i SM RX sensitivity
>> 1x = -85.9 dBm
>> 2x = -81.5 dBm
>> 4x = -75.8 dBm
>> 6x = -69.3 dBm
>> 8x = -61.6 dBm
>>
>> Joe Falaschi
>> e-vergent
>>
>
