Thank you Mitch!

Being one of the owners or MidWest-IX I wanted to address this then someone 
please kill this thread.


1.I am not sure who Eric Kuhnke is.  We have never had dealings with him nor 
have I ever spoken to him except on Facebook.  Not sure what got under his skin 
but he has a major issue.  It’s kinda creepy.

2.The photo is of the Westin Building meet me room.  It’s kinda hard to miss 
that.

3.The photo was purchased from a Stock Photo site when we created the new 
version of midwest-ix.com.  I still have the receipt as part of business 
expenses. It was given with a limited license.  We could use it on a web-site 
and in limited usage.  It was not an exclusive license. I believe the site is 
stockphoto.com and they were responsible for the license of the image.

4.In no way do we represent the photo as being our network. It’s a photo for 
crap sake.  By design, we do not own data centers.    Nowhere do we say this is 
out data center our our meet me room. If it was a random photo it would not be 
used.  If it hadn’t been bought from a stock photo site it would not have been 
used.

5.We are not Missouri IX.  We are MidWest-IX and FD-IX. We are not just in 
Missouri.  We are in many places not even listed on the web-site for one reason 
or another.    Nowhere do we imply that is our meet me room.  Any implication 
is a totally subjective to the person viewing the room.


And here is the most Important thing of all of this!!!!!
6.How do you know we don’t have a presence in that room? Have you ever had the 
courtesy to ask us before assuming? How do you know we do not do business with 
the Westin Building and it’s tenants? How do you know if we have had any 
conversations about the meet me room and the photo with representatives of the 
Westin Building? One of the folks from the Westin was at WispAmerica this year. 
Him and I sat down and talked and I even showed him our web-site. 

Done and Done.


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

www.mtin.net
j2sw.com
www.midwest-ix.com

> On Aug 5, 2017, at 8:42 PM, Mitch Koep <af...@abwisp.com> wrote:
> 
> Question??
> 
> Eric
> 
> Why are you so upset?
> 
> Did you have a bad dealing with someone and this is get back at them time?
> 
> I agree with Faisal it's a picture
> 
> Mitch
> On 8/5/2017 11:29 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
>> Share with you a related story....
>> 
>> I was in a Conf. room of one of our Colo Facilities Providers, they had some 
>> pictures on their Conf. Room wall, which all were nice.. but there was one 
>> picture that caught eye and appeared to be very familiar.. it was a picture 
>> of cluster of antennas mounted on the roof of that facility...
>> 
>> Upon a closer look, I recognized that that cluster was our antennas ! ... so 
>> instantly two emotions came to mind... one was .. Hey that is a nice picture 
>> ! I know to whom that stuff belongs to !... and the second... How dare you 
>> take pictures of my equipment and hang it your conf. room (we don't buy roof 
>> access from them)  !...
>> 
>> To me personally, the former feeling overcame the latter reaction... and I 
>> actually felt proud of our little Cluster that someone viewed presentable 
>> enough to put in their conf. room.
>> 
>> Having said that.. if you are not the copyright owner of the photo.. then 
>> why does it bother you at all ? Hopefully you should feel proud that picture 
>> of an actual facility you know is being liked by others and being promoted 
>> on the net... 
>> 
>> and that is IMHO !
>> 
>> Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions and your mileage may vary !.
>> 
>> :)
>> 
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>> 
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 
>> <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>
>> 
>> From: "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> <mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 7:38:33 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Matt Hoppes and Missouri IX
>> I am not the copyright owner of the photo in question. This is only a 
>> request. 
>> Please stop using the photo of the Westin Building 1901 fiber meet-me room 
>> to advertise the Missouri IX. 
>> 
>> Property owners and ISPs in the Pacific Northwest have spent a great deal of 
>> time, money and effort building traffic exchange infrastructure.
>> 
>> In my opinion is not an accurate or factual depiction of whatever facilities 
>> may currently exist in Missouri to use a photograph from a carrier hotel in 
>> downtown Seattle.
>> 
>> <image.png>
>> 
> 

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