Is PR ready to accept people and supplies? >From what we're hearing about PR, I assume people have to be self-sustaining >(food, water, etc.)?
What methods are there for people getting large items like COWs, generators, tower sections, etc. down there? Can't just put it on a truck. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gino A. Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 9:19:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino Guys, we are ok, lots of damaged and downed towers (all guyded). Need Gens, COWS and manpower (riggers, installers, etc.) From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Lewis Bergman < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Date: Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:00 AM To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino Yep, exactly what I said. Gino A. Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 7:53 AM Faisal Imtiaz < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: It is nice to have deep thoughts and conversations about restoring internet service..... May I remind everyone that, We all of the ISP/WISP/NSP are here to serve our Customers, and that is how we earn a living... Yes after Natural disaster event, there are two parallel concerns... One.... How do we bring back our service, restore the damage to our Infrastructure. Two... What is the state of affairs of our customers ? Do we have any left who are able to use the service and pay for it ? Yes, one can have a fully functional infrastructure, but if the Customers (end users) are not in any shape to utilize it or pay for it, then such functional infrastructure is of little value. (I am not being heartless in talking about paying customers, just pointing to realities of the situation.. without paying customers, non of us will be around... and yes we can do acts of charity, and provide free service for a certain duration, but at the end of the day that has to get paid somehow, from someone, from somewhere) These events are not short term issues.. depending on severity they true severity of such disasters unravel over a period of time... sometimes weeks, sometimes months, and in some cases years ! Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <blockquote> From: "Lewis Bergman" < lewis.berg...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 8:42:30 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino <blockquote> It is possible to build an infrastructure that doesn't rely on anything else but what you have, just like the US militay. Problem is you would lose your shirt trying to do it. There is only so much you can do that consumers will pay for. </blockquote> <blockquote> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 10:35 PM Colin Stanners < cstann...@gmail.com > wrote: </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Even for WISPs who are very far from the affected areas, such events are humbling. Customers say "your company can deliver [good, non-satellite] internet where no one else can", but all of us rely fully on the backbone internet connection, usually on a functioning power grid, and need gasoline to power service vehicles. Once those are gone, no matter how we wish or pray, everything is dead in the water. On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Craig House < cr...@totalhighspeed.net > wrote: <blockquote> I'm in st Thomas and have been here a week helping a WISP and general cleanup like orphanages The power is the major issue. All poles and utilities are offline outside of the major port area that has buried utilities. Generators are being flown in every day word here is 6-9 months for power to be restored. Fiber phone and cable providers are crippled and many of the towers here have most of the equipment not just damaged but totally missing. What is there still is water damaged or has fried Ethernet from water infiltration But power is the major issue in the USVI also Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2017, at 16:58, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> With PR having been on the verge of state bankruptcy, why not, just cut and run now. use the influx that's inbound to rebuilt and become wealthy, never have to worry about the statehood thing again. Everybody will have smartmeters and starbucks </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 1:00 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Aruba has a pretty decent wind farm, although they are wealthier than a lot of other Caribbean islands. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Sunday, September 24, 2017, Erich Kaiser < er...@northcentraltower.com > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> I always wondered why the Caribbean islands did not use more wind and/or solar power. </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> On Sun, Sep 24, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> >From what I'm hearing, the major issue is power, or the lack thereof. Existing >supplies of fuel for generators, etc. are in extremely short supply. I've been >hearing estimates of 6+ months to restore power, and that may be optimistic. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 9/24/2017 9:07 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> <blockquote> I know we are all anxious hoping to hear from Gino.ï¿1Ž2 ï¿1Ž2 I wish I still had an HF rig and a decent antenna.ï¿1Ž2 I am wondering of anyone on here works 20 meters and has heard from folks in PR? ï¿1Ž2 Keep hearing of the lack of communication capability there, but 2 meter and HF is pretty much going to work irrespective of any infrastructure damage.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 Here in Utah, our county emergency center has fully functional HF, VHF and UHF capability.ï¿1Ž2ï¿1Ž2 ï¿1Ž2 Actually most of Utah does as well as many groups of LDS church folk that work with emergency preparedness.ï¿1Ž2 ï¿1Ž2 I have never used it, but I know there are HF methods to convey IP.ï¿1Ž2 Could certainly keep slow speed email going.ï¿1Ž2 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>