it could be that something hung up and they we "engineering" a solution

ive seen the name tower kings the most in tower incident reports, i dont
know if its that theyre a shoddy outfit or just do alot of tower work

with it being the owners son, i would bet if its the former, that corporate
policy will change, if its the latter, well, thats all part of the game.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> These are some examples..
>
> On Sep 28, 2017 7:29 AM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>
>> That was my first question....why were they attached to the gin pole?
>> Trying to save some climbing time as they were raising it? I've erected
>> several towers with Gin poles (the small clamp on variety), both guyed and
>> self support, but It never once occurred to me to attach to one. Not that I
>> could as they were actually poles, but even If I could, it wouldn't seem
>> smart.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 7:25 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was building tall towers that was the only way to do it. My bet
>>> is they were not attached to it though. Those don't collapse because the
>>> wind blows. They obviously must have exceeded the load limits. Maybe they
>>> didn't add in the additional load the wind adds. I'll bet the investigation
>>> will tell. Anyway, when you are up there, that gin pole is hooked into the
>>> base of the tower section you are working at the top of. It is typically
>>> chain boomed to the top of that same section. That gives you the ability to
>>> have the head room above the tower to do jobs like these. There is no other
>>> way to do it. When everyone is paying attention it is safe. I can't ever
>>> recall even having the slightest mishap using one.
>>>
>>> Having said all of that, I never tried to hang a 10,000 pound broadcast
>>> TV antenna either. Really I don't what the weigh but I do know they are
>>> very heavy and have a really large wind load. Having been on towers where
>>> some things did go wrong I can empathize with those guys on the tower.
>>> Hearing the pulley strain under the weight, the gin pole groan as it
>>> started to collapse. The all the sudden the whole things starts to crumble
>>> down in slow motion as you and everything around you crashes downward in a
>>> hell that might last a 30 seconds but seems like it goes on forever.
>>>
>>> Bummer man.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 11:15 PM Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They are huge and scary looking..World's Toughest Jobs show had episode
>>>> on tall tower construction with these gin poles...impressive but I will not
>>>> work on them...my Superman days are long gone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 10:11 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't ever seen them.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Have you seen those gin poles used on large towers?  I have turned
>>>>> down high paying gigs on crews like these.  Cranes near guyed towers...not
>>>>> my cup of Tecate.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 8:26 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They were "attached to the gin pole, when it collapsed and they
>>>>>> fell".  Who in the hell ties off to a gin pole?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We were working in Cedar Hills, Texas when this same company lost
>>>>>>> three tower guys near Joe Poole Lake where all those monster towers are
>>>>>>> that serve DFW area...sad...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 27, 2017 3:13 PM, "Wireless Administrator" <wirel...@htn.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ouch …..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://wsvn.com/news/local/3-dead-after-falling-from-televis
>>>>>>>> ion-tower-in-miami-gardens/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Steve B.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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