Not following. As far as like a towercoverage type thing?

> On Oct 18, 2017, at 08:29, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> I was with WISPMon because of it's superior RF capabilities over every other 
> billing\OSS platform. It is my understanding that Sonar will be adding this 
> capability, thus retaining the most capable platform, RF-wise.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
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> From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 7:14:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
> 
> Mike. What does powercode not do that you want it to do?
> 
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 07:55, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> Please don't become a Sonar customer just to demonize them because you don't 
> like their service model.
> 
> Seriously. That'd be a super shitty thing to do.
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2017 6:52 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> I will be using it shortly as Sonar bought WISPMon.
>> 
>> All of the major billing\OSS platforms with modern features are also 
>> cloud-based, so there's not really anywhere else to go.
>> 
>> That's fine for you that it works that way, but many WISPs are increasing 
>> their use of on-premises virtualization. What about your monitoring, DNS, 
>> RADIUS, syslog, Unimus, mail, etc., etc. servers?
>> 
>> Yes, my reasons do outweigh arbitrary reasons to keep it in a cloud 
>> environment.
>> 
>> Actually, I've been fairly quiet on this particular issue and will be 
>> increasing my advocacy efforts in this regard to all billing\OSS platforms. 
>> As I said, it's the SFP port of the billing\OSS world.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Darin Steffl" <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 10:08:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar
>> 
>> I'm in agreement with Simon that it's much faster and reliable to host in 
>> the cloud than a server on site. It would cost me many more hours, hand 
>> holding, and worry if I had to host this server in my network. If I went on 
>> vacation and something happened, I'd be stressed.
>> 
>> With sonar living in the cloud, there's less to worry about as it's hosted 
>> in a much more reliable datacenter than I could afford to build. It's also 
>> managed by sonar's team so if there's an issue, they take care of it. Stress 
>> free for me. 
>> 
>> I see why you might want to host it in house but those reasons do NOT 
>> outweigh all the benefits of letting sonar host it in the cloud for you and 
>> take care of the problems. 
>> 
>> Mike, if you don't like Simon's decision to leave it in the cloud, shut up 
>> and move on. There's no reason for you and Matt Hoppes to keep beating a 
>> dead horse and sound like a broken record. Use something else you're happy 
>> with and let the rest of us grow our business and make more $ while you two 
>> complain about a product you don't even use. Jeez ha
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:31 PM, "Seth Mattinen" <se...@rollernet.us> wrote:
>>>> On 10/17/17 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>> Expect repeated harassment until a good reason is presented or you 
>>>> capitulate.
>>>> 
>>>> It's the SFP of the billing\OSS world.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I always welcome my competitors to have external dependencies. When they 
>>> try to hand wave their problems away as vendor or cloud problems it helps 
>>> me gain new customers.
>>> 
>>> ~Seth
>> 
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