A appreciate your opinion, but I disagree.

Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield

> On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:58 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> 8 characters is never enough.
> 
> The size of your organization is irrelevant.
> 
> 
> 
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange
> 
> The Brothers WISP
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 7:56:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
> 
> I don’t like password managers. They make logging into things take forever. 
> Also, I haven’t found one for Mac that I like.
> 
> I was first talking about my password when setting it up. It doesn’t matter 
> if it is customer facing or my admin password, I should be able to choose my 
> level of security. An 8 character password is secure enough for me and my 
> small organization. 
> 
> But customer passwords certainly need to be easier and more relaxed. 
> 
> Thank you,
> Brett A Mansfield
> 
> On Oct 26, 2017, at 1:28 AM, Ryan Ray <ryan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just realized you were talking about customer facing passwords, which 
> absolutely should be somewhat easy as people seem to be pretty blase' about 
> their password security, but anyone with a lick of tech knowledge should be 
> using a password manager with a random long password for every site. I use 
> 1password which has apps for Windows, osx, ios, android and browser 
> extensions. Then every password is as long as the site will let me with 
> random characters.
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 6:13 PM, Brett A Mansfield 
>> <li...@silverlakeinternet.com> wrote:
>> Oh no, admin password should be very strong. But I am just barely playing 
>> with this for the first time and I didn’t know they made it so you can 
>> change the requirements. I’m quite impressed with sonar so far. It looks 
>> like it will take a very long time to setup because of how many features 
>> there are. 
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh, for the customers.  That is a different kettle of pickles.  I agree, 
>> customer passwords can be less secure in my opinion. 
>> I thought you were talking about your admin password. 
>>  
>> From: Brett A Mansfield
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:50 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>>  
>> I can tell already that it will be a serious challenge. I have a lot of 
>> customers that will be calling me just to complain that they cannot get into 
>> their account because the password requirements are too strict and they 
>> forgot their password again. 
>>  
>> Should I not be able to choose my own password requirements?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>> 
>> On Oct 25, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Absolutely not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: "Brett A Mansfield" <li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 7:32:07 PM
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Sonar password requirements too strict?
>> 
>> Anyone here that uses sonar find the password requirements to be too strict? 
>> 12 character requirement. 
>> 
>> When it comes to passwords, I should get to choose any password I want when 
>> I’m paying someone for a service. I have the same issue with Apples new 
>> stuff. 
>> 
>> I just spun up a new instance of sonar to try it out. I haven’t even passed 
>> the password change screen yet and I think I’ve already decided to cancel.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Brett A Mansfield
>>  
> 
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