Our target is that all infrastructure ROI’s within 8 months and all residential installations ROI in 4. There are obviously exceptions but that’s the guiding principal.
Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 7:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish Well said. There's definitely a market for the device. I just might not be a member of that market. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>> To: "af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 11/30/2017 12:53:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish It always comes down to budget and ROI. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:36 AM To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish What, you mean you don't want to build carrier-grade five nines infrastructure out of USB dongles held in place with a hot-glue gun? On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 6:48 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: I've been scared of IgniteNet MetroLinq ever since I saw the pictures of its insides. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: 11/28/2017 9:00:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish Well, yeah, it depends what all he ends up feeding with it. If it needs more than what the current AF24 can handle, I wouldn't go to an AF24HD... An 80ghz link wouldn't even cost all that much more, and then it'll be able to handle enough bandwidth that you'll probably never have to mess with it again. There are also other 24ghz radios that would at least give you the option of smaller antennas, if nothing else. But I'd more than likely just use an ignitenet. On Nov 28, 2017 7:48 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: But can't use the whole gig, so he's looking at AF24HD so he can... which are $6k opposed to $1k and don't have SFPs. Gig upstream - AF24 - multiple 11 GHz channels\polarities. If he gets his wish and fixes the 11 GHz 1 gigabit issue, the AF24 is now the issue. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions<http://www.ics-il.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> ________________________________ From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> To: "af" <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 7:27:49 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish Yeah, but if I'm understanding right, the AF24 link is already there. On Nov 28, 2017 7:10 PM, "Chris Wright" <ch...@velociter.net<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote: Everything works beautifully at 700’. At this distance it’s more about cost savings. Don’t waste your time with AF24 when a 60ghz link at 1/3 the cost and twice the throughput will fit the bill perfectly. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 4:59 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish I wouldn't use IgnetNet if I already had the airFibers there... if it's only going to be feeding an 11ghz link that's around 700ish meg, the AF24 link will handle that perfectly fine, and I see no reason to mess with it. Ignitenets should work beautifully on a 700ft link, but if I only needed 700Mbps, I'd rather have airFibers. If it gets to the point where ~700Mbps isn't enough, then yes, I'd use IgniteNet. On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: I'd use IgniteNet over airFiber for 700 feet. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ________________________________ From: "Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 3:28:11 PM Subject: [AFMUG] 11 mile 11ghz gigabitish We have a phenomenal saf lumina link we get 366 out of. I can 2+0 this to get to 732. using the existing 3 and 4 foot antennas I wouldnt mind seeing a little more of our gigabit upstream connectivity utilized here, somewhere along the same price using the same antennas Im not at all impressed with the mimosa gear, its not full duplex and putting that much variable latency into the network bringing our bandwidth into the core of our network just seems like moving backward. before I give my blessing, for what its worth, to the boss to order the SAF gear, I just want to make sure there isnt a better option. Lumina is older and nearing EOL im guessing, we have other places the units can be used. on the same note, we bring this bandwidth up from the fiber by AF24 700 feet, so probably should ask about a 24ghz (or anything) short link solution. Im assuming af24hd will meet that need
