Were you offended on behalf of the hippopotamus or the squaw? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 11:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun - probably non PC - possibly racist
i dont understand it but im offended not that its racist or anything, just that ken wont come back even though its lent tell him if he will bring his ball back i will be good On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Cameron Crum <cc...@wispmon.com<mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote: I teach my kids with this method and use it quite frequently in designing odd shaped speaker volumes. Was just doing that last night in fact! I love the play on words. On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 10:14 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote: Below is a part of a thread between me and Ken Hohhof. I found it fun last night. Can you figure out the riddle? From: ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:08 AM To: Ken Hohhof Subject: Re: OFFLIST: government is not the only place where money talks I called 4 of my kids and asked them if they could understand the squaw on the hippo. First kid, my youngest son, 23 years old, really good machinist, acted like I was speaking a foreign language. Even with hints and prompting he never got there. Second kid, actually works for a company building parts for Space X. CS degree. He took lots of hints and prompting. Third kid, EE, works for DOD at Hill Airforce Base got it instantly. I was surprised as his EE coursework seemed about 1/3rd as rigorous as the stuff I had to do. Fourth kid, science teacher in Jr High, got it with a minor hint. Her husband, ME student at the Uof U didn’t have a clue. 3 more kids to ask. That was fun! From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:07 PM To: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: RE: OFFLIST: government is not the only place where money talks Well, that’s discouraging. The books might be digital now, but nothing else has changed in almost 50 years. BTW, the “new math” happened while I was in approximately grades 8-10. We had paperback textbooks from SMSG (School Mathematics Study Group). I don’t remember them as being bad. I think a lot depended on the teachers, whether they knew the material and taught it well in the classroom including the practical applications that Feynman wrote about. Teachers were more highly valued in that period than now, and I think I had some really good science and math teachers especially in high school. The “new math” approach I think was the first attempt at teaching college type math to all high school students rather than assuming most students would never need algebra, trig, or Venn diagrams. When my kids went to high school, everything in math class seemed to center around graphing calculators. I’m not sure why. It doesn’t teach fundamentals, and hardly anyone solves daily math problems with a graphing calculator. I think it’s the same approach as teaching the way to find the diagonal of a right triangle is to cut one out of paper and measure it. I remember a bad joke in high school that ended with “the squaw on the hippopotamus is equal to the sons of the squaws on the other two hides”. Who today would even know what that refers to? From: Chuck McCown [mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>] Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 5:16 PM To: Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com<mailto:khoh...@kwom.com>> Subject: Re: OFFLIST: government is not the only place where money talks Richard Feynman had an interesting experience with the textbook selection process: http://www.textbookleague.org/103feyn.htm From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 4:01 PM To: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: OFFLIST: government is not the only place where money talks Pharmaceutical companies of course spend a lot of time and money recruiting doctors to prescribe their drugs and recommend them at medical conferences. Same thing is happening with classroom technology like laptops and software, raising ethical concerns. Lots of articles like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/02/technology/silicon-valley-teachers-tech.html And apparently there was a scandal at Baltimore County Schools concerning a big contract for HP laptops: http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/DigitalEducation/2017/11/baltimore_county_tech_conflicts.html My guess is shenanigans like this go on to a greater or lesser extent in almost any school district and influences the contracts for “Ed Tech”. So we end up with kindergartners having iPads and Chromebooks, all the textbooks being online, and teachers using classroom management software, and wondering how much this really improves education. Maybe it’s all great stuff, but it seems to show that lobbying and buying influence are not restricted to Washington. 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