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On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:59 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> What are you using?  Router NAT or a server or ?
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> *From:* Steve Jones
> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
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> Im not going to lie, we are natting at 1:300 across a handful of publics
> and have little to no issue, though we really should since the customer
> router double NATs
>
> On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
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>> I need to have about /19 worth of customers natted to as few V4s as is
>> needed to make it work properly.
>>
>> We currently have about 3 /21s I think.  Don’t want to have to buy a
>> fourth.
>>
>> *From:* Dennis Burgess
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 11:34 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>
>>
>> Mikrotik can do that, I have a router with 20k NAT rules natting two /21s
>> to less than 254 ips .:)
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *George Skorup
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 15, 2018 12:28 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IPv4 exhaust again
>>
>>
>>
>> Dual-stack and CGN? You can get 8:1, 16:1 or even 32:1 out of a single
>> public IPv4 address. Give 8 customers 8k ports each, or 16 customer 4k
>> ports each, 32 customers 2k ports each. That's *source* ports, so they're
>> not limited to 8k, 4k or 2k connections total. You have to look at in both
>> directions. 10.10.10.10:1024 -> 8.8.8.8:53 and 10.10.10.10:1024 ->
>> 8.8.4.4:53 mappings are both valid, and it obviously goes a lot deeper
>> than that.
>>
>> Seems to be a whole lot easier than some crazy NAT appliance that's
>> running the whole network. I haven't done anything like this, but I'm
>> considering it. I think Juniper even lets you do this with a couple
>> commands? Yeah, I'm too cheap for that.
>>
>> Something else to keep in mind is that most consumer grade routers still
>> have a fairly limited connection table. My Cambium cnPilot router I have at
>> home lets you adjust the max table size (up to 8192). Most are 2k or 4k.
>> While even a low-end MikroTik will give you >100k.
>>
>> On 1/15/2018 11:35 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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>> Planning to buy another /21 or some such thing .... again ......
>>
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>> So going to attempt to NAT the whole frigging company.
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>> Seems like I am going in reverse here.
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>> If we can make NAT work for most customers, then that will buy us time to
>> build our magic V4 translator gateway box for a V6 only network.�
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>> Any suggestions on the best way to do this?
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