When my kids were teenagers we had a computer room that had no door and was open to the TV room. High traffic area. We had 8 kids so lots of people, lots of eyes.
I still referred to the computer room as the masturbatorium much to their chagrin. From: Nate Burke Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering) "I just have to check on the kids all the time or be in the same room (four 8 – 18 yr old boys, lol!)" Whenever I'm ask how to keep kids from goofing off on the computer, my response is always the same. Put the Computer(s) in the most high traffic room of the house, facing into the room. On 2/6/2018 11:59 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I like those comments. Went they first passed a form of this, I asked their task group to send me “the list”. They couldn’t do it, and therefore it was not enforceable. I’m thinking again, unless a state provides “the list”, they can’t force an ISP to do anything about it. Plus it’s entirely fruitless. They should really go after the content provider networks with better abilities to code protect and lock down content. Like culinary water, I would like to have something potable for my kids. But I don’t want the overhead as an ISP, and the definition of “potable” water is undefinable really. They need to leave the “pipe” alone, and focus on the ends, the third party filters is where it’s at, and the CDN’s providing better tools. I can’t properly filter, or code protect even my Netflix on most devices. I just have to check on the kids all the time or be in the same room (four 8 – 18 yr old boys, lol!) and use Qustodio where possible. As it is, I’ve had to lock down most stuff to either ON or OFF and I took back the smartphone my oldest had because of this. Now he has a flip phone with no internet. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT Porn ..... (filtering) Based on all your comments (thank you), I sent the following to the legislative working group: (You guys helped me look smarter than I am ). Some random thoughts. If you are going to an HTTPS site, it is all encrypted. If you are attempting to analyze a flow of traffic HTTPS traffic looks the same to us whether it is porn or online banking. Do we also block Bit Torrent? XBox Grand Theft Auto Any game with online chat. Scrub online chat during games? All game servers Twitter Instagram Youtube News outlets Facebook Email Instant messaging Periscope Streaming FTP IRC The lowly ping facility has a space for payload. I could send porn via pings if I wanted. What is defined as harmful content? Medical, artistic, Bible readings? Genesis 19, 29 etc etc. Language, if so what language? Bare shoulders. Knees? Curtains blowing in the breeze. How about what I consider pornographic music lyrics. Do we have to police music. Police Pandora. There are always ways around. For every block there is a proxy or VPN that will get you around it. Filters can give parents a false sense of security. Filters are gimmicks. Snake oil. But we do offer them. Not home grown. They are 3rd party.
