+1hunnit. AE for very low density makes sense. The same argument can be
made for wireless. If you have one house on a 1 mile road, does it even
make sense to do fiber for that one customer? And then multiply that by
something like 5 or even 10 miles. Bring fiber to a customer and shoot a
PTP to the house at the end of the road? Or give the customer the option
to pay for their extra long drop?
PON makes sense when you want all (or most) of the PON features for
things like single pane of glass monitoring and such. OTOH, there's no
reason you can't do AE on something like a Calix shelf and get most of
that stuff.
On 2/11/2018 9:24 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I'm looking at rural areas (like a few houses per mile). As I'm
looking at hypothetical power budgets for PON, I'm finding that if I
run the line down the road and put splitters on the pole I can split
5-6 times and then I'm getting too low on db to keep going down the
road. At 5 or so houses per port, a 1U, 8 port ONT is no denser than
a 1U switch.
Your stated reasons for PON are all correct. The numbers just aren't
seeming to work out for me.
I also figure if I install enough fibers for AE, I can still switch to
PON some day if I want to.
We would never max out the PON port, but looking back on the past 15
years of growth in consumption I wonder if I should ever say "never".
In AE I can put 100Gig in every house if I have to. I'll "never" have
to do that as far as I can imagine, but my imagination could be limited.
-Adam
------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 2/11/2018 9:28:34 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT
A few reasons...
Port cost is still fairly high.
More splicing.
More fiber required.
Larger chassis required.
More power required.
More battery backup required.
Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations back of PON
capacity in most places.
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days?
*From:* Chuck Hogg
*Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT
We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's
product with Zhone is different.
Regards,
Chuck
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]>
wrote:
I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it
was DASAN that rescued them from the one they walked far away
form. I don't remember which. ;-)
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*From: *"Jason McKemie" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 6, 2018 4:35:53 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT
In light of finding out that Calix's offering is not going to
be anywhere near within budget, does anyone else have any
other suggestions?
I found these guys, but have never heard of them:
http://www.richerlink.com/en/products.asp?ClassID=116
<http://www.richerlink.com/en/products.asp?ClassID=116>
It looks like DASAN also has an option - I've at least heard
of them:
http://www.dasannetworks.com/product_images/V5806_20140520174927.pdf
<http://www.dasannetworks.com/product_images/V5806_20140520174927.pdf>
-Jason