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On 2/15/18 7:49 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I can.� I can have them hanging out the front and eliminate the finger pull hole.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Thursday, February 15, 2018 7:49 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...
You can make the cards longer�
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 4:02 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...

*//*

*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

I ran out of room when I tried.� That is on the APC version.
*From:* Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 12:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...
O need both the SS and the Fuse? can�t they be integrated in the same unit?
From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 at 11:50 AM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...

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*/Gino A. Villarini/*

President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Two similar questions:
Surge suppressors can blow ports.� If you have a surge, the surge protector will clamp all the Ethernet lines to ground.� That shorts them all together and grounds them.� That will also blow some POE ports. So you need surge protectors to protect things from surges, but you need fuses to protect the POE source from the surge protector.� Learned this the hard way.
*From:* can...@believewireless.net
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:48 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...
So for a Netonix, do we just need the fuse or do we need the surge arrestor card as well?
On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 10:41 AM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

    per chuck they must be fueses to protect a netonix, anything else
    was too slow.
    On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 7:34 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

        I'm sure you already thought about this, but is it possible to
        make a device that recovers automatically after the short
        circuit has ended while also responding fast enough to protect
        the port?

        Is it a case where it's possible but costs too much?


        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
        To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
        Sent: 2/14/2018 10:27:32 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...

            We have been shipping for months.
            The cost of having a Netonix port repaired is more than the
            cost of the fuse.
            And then there is the labor and downtime and other
            intangible expenses involved in blowing a port.

            The prices are lower if you buy from one of my
            distributors.� I don't encourage anyone to buy off my
            ecommerce site and pay full list price.� That site is only
            there to generate sales for distributors.

All of my products have prices based on cost plus margin. Same formula across the board pretty much.� I try to have
            unique products you can't get other places.��� If volume
            increases on a product, I sometimes adjust the price down
            due to the fact that my costs come down.� For example, if I
            am buying 1000 surge protector PCBs, I may be paying $1 for
            each.� But if I am only buying 100 of them it may be $2.50.

            I recently adjusted the cost down on my 8 circuit tower
            surge protector for exactly this reason. Volume picked up, I
            worked on sourcing and buying and was able to drop the list
            price considerably and still maintain my margins.

            -----Original Message----- From: Faisal Imtiaz
            Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 8:00 AM
            To: Animal Farm
            Subject: [AFMUG] POE Fuse ...

            Hi Chuck,

            Great to hear about the new product, the POE Fuse.

            Question & critique.
            When are these going to be available ?
            We would like to see these priced a bit more aggressive...
            (At the current pricing, the cost of fusing multiple ports
            appears to be exceeding the cost of 'poe switch' it is
            protecting ! )

            Regards.

            Faisal Imtiaz
            Snappy Internet & Telecom
            http://www.snappytelecom.net

            Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

            Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or
            Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net


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