Yeah, 5500 is incorrect. Sorry just getting my feet wet with this stuff. The 
load is roughly 270 watts. Chuck, can clarify what you mean by steady/constant? 







Darrick Potter
DMCI Broadband LLC
 
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>    1. Re: Batteries for backup power. (Chuck McCown)
>    2. Re: Batteries for backup power. (Adam Moffett)
>    3. Re: Pledge drive (Craig Schmaderer)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2018 08:59:43 -0700
> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> To: <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
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> Not sure exactly what you mean.  
> Is your load 5500 watts or do you need 5500 watt hours?
> 
> Let?s start with the load.  Is the load steady/constant?
> If so, what is the wattage?
> If not, what is the peak wattage?
> 
> From: Darrick Potter 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 8:56 AM
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Subject: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
> 
> 
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> 
> Looking for advice on batteries for standby power? We are using a Tripp-Lite 
> APS2424 to charge batteries and invert to AC power. Our current power needs 
> are about 5500 watts per 20 hours. We would like at least two days of run 
> time. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Darrick Potter
> DMCI Broadband LLC
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> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
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> I think there's a typo here somewhere.
> 
> If you need to run 5500 watts for 2 days then you need 264,000 
> watt-hours of battery.
> If that's right, then better look at generator and a big fuel tank 
> instead, and get only enough battery for an hour or so.
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Darrick Potter" <ddpot...@dmcibb.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 2/21/2018 10:56:32 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Batteries for backup power.
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> >Looking for advice on batteries for standby power? We are using a 
> >Tripp-Lite APS2424 to charge batteries and invert to AC power. Our 
> >current power needs are about 5500 watts per 20 hours. We would like at 
> >least two days of run time. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
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> >Darrick Potter
> >DMCI Broadband LLC
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> From: Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
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> Did Paul ever let us know what the current cost and deficit is?
> 
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 8:51 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
> 
> We used to allow all AnimalFarm sponsors to do exactly this.  Every Friday 
> morning.  Perhaps a time to revisit the issue...  Good way to build a kitty 
> for Paul.
> 
> From: TJ Trout
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:51 PM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
> 
> Chuck could consider allowing vendors to post ad's on a specific day and time 
> for a specific fee, but that's a whole other animal to deal with, the plus 
> would be he could add like *SPONSORED AD* to the title which we can all 
> filter straight to spam if desired ?
> 
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Paul McCall 
> <pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:
> Its is Overkill, providing your time has no value to chase down why X Mail 
> server can?t be delivered to, or why X mail server has undefined bounces or x 
> firewall system thinks it?s spam, etc. etc.
> 
> Amazon never goes down, never gets blacklisted.
> 
> If you are cool with bulk mailserver drama, then have a go at switching, and 
> managing that aspect.   ?
> 
> AES is not the cheapest option no doubt.  This was a choice Chuck and I made 
> to make sure it ?just worked? because we all have businesses that, hopefully, 
> are successful enough to not want to fuss with it.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
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> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 2:13 PM
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
> 
> What is SES?  Amazon?
> 
> That seems overkill for a mailing list.
> 
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 14:09, Mike Hammett 
> <af...@ics-il.net<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> SES
> 
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> From: "Matt Hoppes" 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>
> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 1:05:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pledge drive
> Support of what???
> 
> What the heck costs that much?
> 
> Mailman takes all of 10 minutes to install and just lives after that.
> 
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:52, Ryan Ray 
> <ryan...@gmail.com<mailto:ryan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Last time this was brought up the cost was $3000 for the year including 
> support, $1800 not including support.
> 
> On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Matt Hoppes 
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net<mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> 
> wrote:
> Can it really be more than $5????
> 
> How much memory, CPU, and storage can a mailing list take when virtualized?
> 
> On Feb 18, 2018, at 13:20, Keefe John 
> <keefe...@ethoplex.com<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>> wrote:
> Just curious, what are the monthly costs to operate this list?
> On February 18, 2018 11:13:54 AM CST, Chuck McCown 
> <ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> 
> I notice it has been a while since we pushed a bit to help fund the
> not-insignificant AWS expense that keeps this list alive.
> 
> Please clean out your couch cushions and paypal the revenue created to
> pa...@pdmnet.net<mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>
> 
> Paul, what is the current status of our deficit?
> 
> 
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