My old man has an old trench hoe like that, bigger backscoop. Backbreaking
bastard. We did a 2 foot wide  6 foot deep trench last year with shovels
and this....ughhhh. but some old roofing tar buckets and spare tires may
have disappeared though.
Ill rent a deep trencher when i do mine

On Thu, Apr 12, 2018, 5:03 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> For actually opening up a trench I've got something similar to this:
>
> https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200643437_200643437
>
> Works great.
>
> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Then there's the manual version:
>> T-Handle Trench Shovel
>> <http://www.lewiscontractorsales.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=T23399&Store_Code=PAL&gdffi=6695d02f63ea49d99de40153f2e16d16&gdfms=91AC3FB05403417B9E5D25AE52FF3AFC&gclid=Cj0KCQjw5LbWBRDCARIsALAbcOdkLZxSEOIujO-B1CUNrLguMtcP_a23sRKzXI05-VLCHMyMOawbNa0aAk11EALw_wcB>
>>
>> I've used a flat spade.  Stab into ground, jump on it so it goes all the
>> way in, pull it out, move down a few inches, jump on it again.  You end up
>> with a skinny slot.  Shove cable into the slot, stomp your boots on it to
>> close the slot back up.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/11/2018 3:29:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencher
>>
>> Yeah I was gonna say an edger is about the cheapest thing.
>> Only goes a few inches deep, but that's all you need.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Jon Lee" <j...@off-gridnetworks.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/11/2018 1:25:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencher
>>
>> Don't know if this would apply, but in the past I have used a sidewalk
>> edger to install an "Invisible Fence" for dogs.
>>
>> -Jon
>> Off-Grid Networks
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 10:17 AM, David Coudron <
>> david.coud...@advantenon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We have been looking for something better as well and found the one you
>>> mentioned.  There are some pretty neat walk behind products out there too,
>>> but more money and not very convenient.   Today we use lawn edgers, which
>>> only get the cable down about 1.5”.   It seems to be far enough, but would
>>> like it to be a little deeper.   We also use an inhouse built mini-plow
>>> device that goes behind a lawn mower or 4 wheeler.   That works pretty
>>> good, but is not convenient as we have to pull to the site on a trailer.
>>> However, we can plow in 300 ft in about 10 minutes with that.  It has a
>>> spool holder and everything. .  The shovel works, but is painfully slow and
>>> when the grass is really dry, it kills the grass as it dries out the sod
>>> that was flipped over.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For right now we are batching up the work and pulling a 4-wheeler to the
>>> site with the mini-plow, or if it is a one off situation, we use the hand
>>> held lawn edger.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-LE750-Landscape-Trencher/dp/B00004DTNH?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-ffab-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B00004DTNH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A sawsall based product or similar would be ideal as the tech could
>>> always have it with them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Coudron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2018 12:10 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Small Portable trencher
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hg04CmggTM
>>>
>>> like this
>>>
>>> but not 2 grand
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 12:01 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A shovel? Push the shovel down, flip the grass on it's top. Continue for
>>> length of run. Lay cable. Flip grass back over. Push down with foot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You can't even tell the grass was disturbed when done
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018, 11:59 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> For these residential deals, we occasionally lose out on new customers
>>> because they dont want to trench cable themselves.
>>>
>>> For this purpose it really only need 4 to 8 inches, just to stay under
>>> the sod.
>>>
>>> Is there a device that attaches to a drill or sawzall? Maybe a chainsaw
>>> modified bar or a bucksaw trenching blade?
>>>
>>> Not looking to get into a whole trencher, just something that ideally
>>> would fit in the truck on a shelf
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jon Lee
>> Off-Grid Networks
>> c.928.793.2972
>>
>>
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