I've definitely done some stupid things with PTP 5ghz. With in a few
hundred foot I may or may not have a few micro-pops humming along with NLOS
shots. It's definitely not a predictable layout though, you just have to
test it.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:52 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> No ptp650 magic sauce like you may be expecting. It performs exactly as
> ptp3/500 did in regard to that. Like anything you can get "nLOS" but you
> pay for it with capacity/reliability
> turning dual payload off gets you "sauce" at the expense of half your
> capacity,  and IIRC theres another setting regarding throughput vs
> stability. 5ghz is 5ghz in this context. you can barely penetrate a fart,
> tree leaves are out of the question
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:16 PM, C Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Orthogon-based PTP650/670 have something like 256/512 subcarriers which
>> helps NLOS. I think AF5X has 1 and AF5XHD has 8 subcarriers?
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray <
>> cg...@graytechsoftware.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been told the PTP650 (and 670) have some sort of magic that helps
>>> with NLOS links. I've always assume this was a result of the custom
>>> chipset. Do these radios actually perform better than others in similar
>>> signal NLOS environments?
>>>
>>> The PTP550 is based on a WiFi chipset... does it have any of the NLOS
>>> magic?
>>>
>>>
>>> In NLOS situations, would the PTP650 / PTP550 be expected to
>>> significantly outperform the airFiber-X hardware?
>>>
>>> Thank you - Chris
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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