They don't boot at 20v.  I don't think you'd lose 4v at 100' but I could be
wrong.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:30 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote:

>  I am changing a PMP 100.  That is 2.4 GHz over to an EPM P1000 subscriber
> module and the PMP 100 works perfectly with the standard PMP 100 power
> supply or I can even switch it over  to the EPMP1000 standard supply and it
> will work. But if I put the EPMP 1000 on it own supply that comes with it
> or the standard PMP 100 supply the radio never shows power.  I have tested
> the cable for continuity and is OK. I have to think  that the cable is
> resistive and the Voltage is too low at the EPMP1000. I have not checked
> that yet. The cable length is right at 100 feet. Strange!  The EPMP1000
> works fine on a 6’ jumper to the PS.
>
> Phil Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Corp.
> Pittsburg, KS
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 1:56 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Right pretty sure Chuck removed the ethernet issues with the newer
>> revision cards.  My issue, though, is the units will lose power for
>> anywhere from a moment (so they simply power cycle) to 30 minutes.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 12:38 PM, George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm running some 1k GPS radios from RSD-150C-24's which always put out
>>> 24.0VDC. Injectors all at the bottom, 100-200 feet of cable and they work
>>> fine.
>>>
>>> The only real problem I've had is getting them to maintain gigabit links
>>> without errors. They'll either run fine with 50-100 CRC/FCS errors a day.
>>> Or I'll get lots more FCS errors and the links will drop a couple times a
>>> day. Some of them will eventually fall back to 100Mbps. Take the GigE-APCs
>>> out and they run gigabit with no errors.
>>>
>>> Chuck sent me some modified CAT6-APCs to try. I just haven't had time to
>>> dive into it yet. Hopefully next week when we replace a couple of those 1k
>>> GPS radios with PTP550s.
>>>
>>> On 5/2/2018 11:22 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> There is - here are the counters: https://imgur.com/a/FdVP9IF
>>> Note that bb5/6/7 have been losing power frequently too.
>>>
>>> If the voltage is too low, why would they randomly reboot maybe once or
>>> twice a week and then be fine for months at a time?
>>>
>>> The runs are well under 100m.  24vdc feeds the NEMA enclosure, then we
>>> have maybe 25 feet of cat5 to APs.
>>>
>>> I would think it's no more than 1 volt loss from my 24v source to the
>>> AP, but I have not verified this.  I know it's 24v at the green terminal
>>> block to the POE injector/Gigabit Sync injector.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
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>>> Suite 1337
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>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A++++++++++++++Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
>>> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you have a base unit attached to these, you should look at the event
>>>> counters on the tripped line in the binary/boolean tab to determine if the
>>>> device is detecting an overcurrent event.    If it's seeing an overcurrent
>>>> trip, then yes, check the surge suppressors.
>>>>
>>>> The other item is what has been mentioned, if you have too low of a
>>>> voltage into the PowerInjector, the ePMP's will reboot.   This is
>>>> especially true in cold weather since the units seem to draw more even
>>>> after startup.   You need around at least 26V on the input of the power
>>>> injector, if not a bit more, for an ePMP to run correctly on a full 100m of
>>>> cable.  You could probably get away with a bit lower voltage on shorter
>>>> runs.
>>>>
>>>> The 10/100 injector doesn't drop quite as many volts due to it being a
>>>> switch closure instead of a semiconductor junction, so you might be right
>>>> on the edge of what is acceptable.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, too low of voltage will also cause 'trips', as when the voltage
>>>> drops below acceptable ranges for the ePMP, the ePMP power supply circuit
>>>> tries to pull more and more power from the CAT5 cable, eventually causing
>>>> what looks like a brief short circuit just before it shuts down.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've got two of these with problems: http://store.
>>>>> packetflux.com/powerinjector-plus-sync-gigabit-version/
>>>>>
>>>>> However one of these gives me no problems: http://store.
>>>>> packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 24vdc plant going up the tower.  In the box it feeds these
>>>>> three Packetflux units.  The 4 channel POE injector has given me 0 
>>>>> problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got Cambium ePMP on the PowerInjector and it has been randomly?
>>>>> rebooting units for several months.  Yesterday one of the ports just
>>>>> decided to turn off for 20 minutes and come right back.  We've replaced 
>>>>> the
>>>>> line & radio to make sure it's the box, but all signs point to it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone else seen this or am I lucky in getting the only two units
>>>>> with power problems on them?  AFAIK sync has been just as reliable as the
>>>>> power through them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Troy,+OH%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>Suite
>>>>> 1337
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Suite+1337+%0D%0A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++Troy,+OH%0D%0A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>Troy,
>>>>> OH 45373
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.*
>>>> Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602
>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=3577+Countryside+Road,+Helena,+MT+59602&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>> forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>    Phil
>
> Philip J. Rankin, CEO
> Wireless Telecommunications, Corp.
> A division of;
> Mobilcom Wireless Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
> 620-231-8188
>

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