Portable spectrum analyzers only capable of up to around 1600 MHz are also
pretty cheap from Chinese sources now, if you want something that is not a
radio but a general purpose unit you can attach to your own selection of
yagis and dipoles. Would recommend something like this for people doing a
lot of 900 MHz or getting into TVWS bands sub-1GHz.

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On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 4:19 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you want a 900mhz spectrum analyzer, there are lots of options. You
> could get a UBNT radio pretty cheap or Canopy FSK radio for next to nothing
> that'll do the job just fine.
>
> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:01 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Midpoints is what we try to get in these situations. If the customer is
>> worth having, it's great, they handle the funny business with the midpoint
>> property owner (usually they pay for that customers service) and it leaves
>> you the ability to serve other customers on the other side of the tree line.
>>
>> Fyi Ubnt used to have a 900 mhz USB spectrum analyzer. I put mine in a
>> small project box with 10' usb and small adapter to N on an 11dbi yagi with
>> a screwdriver through the hole as a handle. Worked great for checking noise
>> and tracing interference for under 60 bucks. Better than investing in 450
>> and it sitting on your shelf because the electric company wants to remotely
>> rape people.
>>
>> On Mon, May 21, 2018, 1:52 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe leapfrog with some back to back rockets or picos or whatever is
>>> cheap at the treeline.  Solar powered.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 12:49 PM
>>> *To:* af
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link
>>>
>>> Yeah... but that only works if you have property access.
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 1:32 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 700’ of cable and use as high capacity radios as you want.  It really
>>>> is not that far if you have property access.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2018 11:46 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 8 mile link
>>>>
>>>> Probably worth getting a spectrum analyzer that has 900 in its range,
>>>> and a 900 yagi, before spending the $2700+ on a 450i 900 AP and antenna.
>>>>
>>>> For the original poster's problem I would try, if possible, moving up
>>>> to 3' dishes on both ends, and ac based radios. And using a 10 MHz channel.
>>>> Might have a better chance of getting a signal like -61 (not -71) and
>>>> through "some" trees.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The problem with 900mhz, is that you never know if it's actually going
>>>>> to work in any given area until you try it.  If there are 900mhz smart
>>>>> meters around, don't even bother... but even if there aren't, 900mhz can 
>>>>> be
>>>>> pretty unpredictable in my experience. If you do go 900mhz, PTP450 is
>>>>> definitely the best option.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:59 AM, Erich Kaiser <
>>>>> er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 900 PTP 450 with KP Performance Antennas, I run mine 3 miles
>>>>>> completely NLOS on 7 MHZ and it runs fine to my house.  During heavy rain
>>>>>> and through heavy foliage (Currently) this is what I am getting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, The 450i 900 system would definately do the trick
>>>>>>> How much bandwidth do you need?
>>>>>>> The 900 on a 10Mhz channel we see around 35Mbs in a noisy
>>>>>>> environment on 8x/4xmimoB rate.
>>>>>>> If your doing ptp with it then open it up to 20Mhz wide and bang on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05/21/2018 10:49 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok. I'll give those a try and see what happens. Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/21/2018 9:37 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could very likely get a bit more speed out of that by going to
>>>>>>> the new AC radios... my guess is that the airFibers would be even 
>>>>>>> better,
>>>>>>> but I haven't used any of those in the 2.4ghz variety.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:31 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The current signal level is -71. I have a 2ft dish on each side.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/21/2018 9:15 AM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah... 900mhz PTP 450 is probably the best option.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What kind of signal level do you get with the 2.4ghz radios? you
>>>>>>>> could probably get a bit more out of it by going to airFiber 2x or 
>>>>>>>> Rocket
>>>>>>>> 2AC radios... and maybe a bigger dish.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <
>>>>>>>> jeffl...@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 900 PTP 450 from Cambium
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>>>>>>>> CTIconnect
>>>>>>>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>>>>>>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>>>>>>> jbroadw...@cticonnect.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> > On May 21, 2018, at 11:05 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > I'm looking for suggestions for an 8 mile link that will be
>>>>>>>>> shooting through a single wall of trees about 1/8 mile from one end 
>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>> link. Currently using 2.4ghz Ubnt radios. Works great during the 
>>>>>>>>> winter,
>>>>>>>>> but once the trees fill back in, the link drops to about 5Mbps actual
>>>>>>>>> throughput. Would be nice to get 20Mbps.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Any suggestions? The trees are 80ft tall, so putting up a 100ft
>>>>>>>>> tower at a residence is not really an option. The other side is on 
>>>>>>>>> top of a
>>>>>>>>> 1000ft tall hill.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > Travis
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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