Ooh good. Its great to know more Africans will be there.

Rexford | khophi.co
On Jun 16, 2015 11:50 AM, "Habib M'henni" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello everybody,
>
> In deed, I've got scholarship to attend Wikimania this year. Emna (in cc)
> from Tunisia will be also there.
> Mohamed Bachounda from Algeria, Walaa Abdelmanaem and May Hashem from
> Tunisia are going to Mexico also.
>
> The African stand is a good idea but we have to organize a permanent
> representatives, last year in London we were so busy with the Wikimedia TN
> User group stand that I missed several sessions in Wikimania that's why,
> this year I made a request to be represented as a member of the WikiFranca
> stand (I didn't knew about African's one).
>
> I will not present all time at WikiFranca and Emna could help me to
> represent Tunisia in both.
>
> So, we will bring some leaflets about out activities and some foods from
> Tunisia.
>
> Best,
>
> Habib
>
> Le 16 juin 2015 12:17:25 CET,
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>> From: Nkansah Rexford
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>> I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from Africa.
>>
>> Rexford | khophi.co
>> On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>  Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
>>>  wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of us are
>>>  there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have achieved over
>>>  the last year - even if it
>>> is in leaflets that are left on an unmanned
>>>  table.
>>>
>>>  Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship either.
>>>  The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he is on
>>>  the FDC committee  - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3 people
>>>  from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but I
>>>  could be wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards showcasing
>>>  what each country has got in representing Africa.
>>>
>>>  Felix
>>>  On Jun 16, 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]>
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>>  That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa space will
>>>>  take turns in manning the
>>>> space?
>>>>
>>>>  On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case where
>>>>>  there isn't enough representation from Africa.
>>>>>
>>>>>  It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia ZA or
>>>>>  Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they decide
>>>>>  to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of their
>>>>>  time will be spent under their space and more especially when they are 
>>>>> just
>>>>>  one each representing their respective countries.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented at this
>>>>>  year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent years.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>  Felix
>>>>>  On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard"
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I am
>>>>>>  NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
>>>>>>  As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they be
>>>>>>  anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from South
>>>>>>  Africa ? etc.
>>>>>>  The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from a
>>>>>>  country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by himself
>>>>>>  during three days. He better enjoy moving around and benefit from all 
>>>>>> what
>>>>>>  Wikimania can offer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to manage a
>>>>>>  table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know if they
>>>>>>  asked for a table.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Well, a collective table would have the
>>>>>> following benefits
>>>>>>  * team work, getting to know each other better
>>>>>>  * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
>>>>>>  * showing them as well that Africa still need way more representation...
>>>>>>  * insure a little presence even from missing countries
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and in case
>>>>>>  it has no volunteer managing the table during most of Wikimania, it 
>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>  also carries a strong message.
>>>>>>  "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ant
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Florence,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I have no idea who is coming from Ghana to Wikimania this year
>>>>>>  (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we know). As 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>>  now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending wikimania
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
>>>>>>  assigned collective space for African
>>>>>> teams, but the African teams were in
>>>>>>  close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order.  The teams weren't 
>>>>>> under
>>>>>>  the 'Africa' collective name, but it was easy finding where the African
>>>>>>  teams were located.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for Africa',
>>>>>>  maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the 
>>>>>> community
>>>>>>  village structure, African teams are placed in sequence? ex. say, Ghana 
>>>>>> -
>>>>>>  Table 1,  Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities 
>>>>>> follow,
>>>>>>  so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent African
>>>>>>  countries, just like it was arranged for London?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   rex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence
>>>>>> Devouard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Eh !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  No feedback at all ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Ant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hello everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an idea
>>>>>>>>  showed up :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  It seems there will be a "community village" this year in Mexico :
>>>>>>>>  https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
>>>>>>>>  Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters had
>>>>>>>>  their own space.
>>>>>>>>  In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to answer
>>>>>>>>  any
>>>>>>>> question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally marketing
>>>>>>>>  material. And food.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a space for each
>>>>>>>>  user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective space 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>  represent Africa and what is being done here. What do you think ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of objects we
>>>>>>>>  can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about some of
>>>>>>>>  their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What do you 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>  to share that we could put on a collective table ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already request a
>>>>>>>>  space ? (Tunisia ?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  And who is coming to Wikimania ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Anthere
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>> Rex don't get the figures wrong, it's just 3 and not 4.
>>
>> Dumi is going on the ticket of the FDC. Plus I agree, the numbers are not
>> encouraging for Africa. I don't think our number even constitutes 2% of the
>> total scholarships given and I hope this is looked into for future purposes.
>> On Jun 16, 2015 11:05 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I think Habib said he did get a scholarship. That makes it four from
>>>  Africa.
>>>
>>>  Rexford | khophi.co
>>>  On Jun 16, 2015 11:03 AM, "Isla at the Africa Centre" <
>>>  [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Basically, as far as I see Florence’s proposal, its about either the
>>>>  wikipedia work within Africa is not visible at all (because none of us are
>>>>  there), or that people can see that we exist and what we have achieved 
>>>> over
>>>>  the last year - even if it is in leaflets that are left on an unmanned
>>>>  table.
>>>>
>>>>  Essentially, we were just not invited. I didn’t get a scholarship either.
>>>>  The only ones I know who did are Douglas and Bobby, and Dumi as he is on
>>>>  the FDC committee  - perhaps Habib did? Nobody else managed. 2 or 3 people
>>>>  from Africa doesn’t seem like even 5% of the scholarships to me, but I
>>>>  could be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 16 Jun 2015, at 12:57 PM, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Not like that but rather a unified or collective effort towards
>>>>  showcasing what each country has got in representing Africa.
>>>>
>>>>  Felix
>>>>  On Jun 16,
>>>> 2015 10:32 AM, "Nkansah Rexford" <[email protected]>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  That will mean representatives from each country at the Africa space
>>>>>  will take turns in manning the space?
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Tuesday, June 16, 2015, Felix Nartey <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am in support of Florence's suggestion especially in this case where
>>>>>>  there isn't enough representation from Africa.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It won't make sense if only Bobby reserves a space for Wikimedia ZA or
>>>>>>  Habib for Tunisia Use group at the community village. Even if they 
>>>>>> decide
>>>>>>  to, that means they will hardly enjoy the conference since most of their
>>>>>>  time will be spent under their space and more especially when they
>>>>>> are just
>>>>>>  one each representing their respective countries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am saddened to say that Africa will be highly underrepresented at
>>>>>>  this year's Wikimania. I hope this doesn't repeat in subsequent years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>>  Felix
>>>>>>  On Jun 16, 2015 8:32 AM, "Florence Devouard" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Hi Rex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The main reason why I was suggesting a collective table is that I am
>>>>>>>  NOT sure there will be participants from many countries.
>>>>>>>  As hinted by Raphael, there will be no one from Ghana. Will they be
>>>>>>>  anyone from Ivory Coast ? From Uganda ? From Ethiopia ? Even from South
>>>>>>>  Africa ? etc.
>>>>>>>  The other thing is that even if there ONE person (or even 2) from a
>>>>>>>  country... it is unlikely that he will manage the table all by himself
>>>>>>>  during three days. He better enjoy moving
>>>>>>> around and benefit from all what
>>>>>>>  Wikimania can offer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It may be that Tunisia has enough participants to be able to manage a
>>>>>>>  table. It may be that they will be the only ones. I do not know if they
>>>>>>>  asked for a table.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Well, a collective table would have the following benefits
>>>>>>>  * team work, getting to know each other better
>>>>>>>  * showing the other wikimedians what is being done in Africa.
>>>>>>>  * showing them as well that Africa still need way more
>>>>>>>  representation...
>>>>>>>  * insure a little presence even from missing countries
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  And yeah... I am also thinking that in case we have a table and in
>>>>>>>  case it has no volunteer managing the table during most of Wikimania, 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>  somehow also carries a strong message.
>>>>>>>  "African wikimedians do exist but they are not here"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Ant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Le 16/06/15 01:25, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Hi Florence,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   I have no idea who is coming from Ghana
>>>>>>> to Wikimania this year
>>>>>>>  (perhaps someone will, yet isn't within our community that we know). 
>>>>>>> As at
>>>>>>>  now, no one confirmed from our end here concerning attending wikimania
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   During Wikimania London, I remember there was not an explicitly
>>>>>>>  assigned collective space for African teams, but the African teams 
>>>>>>> were in
>>>>>>>  close proximity, in fact, in a sequential order.  The teams weren't 
>>>>>>> under
>>>>>>>  the 'Africa' collective name, but it was easy finding where the African
>>>>>>>  teams were located.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   The sequence was ZA, Ghana, and Tunisia:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> https://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village#Map_of_the_Community_Village
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   How about instead of requesting for a collective space 'for Africa',
>>>>>>>  maybe during the placing and arrangement of African teams in the 
>>>>>>> community
>>>>>>>  village structure, African teams are placed in
>>>>>>> sequence? ex. say, Ghana -
>>>>>>>  Table 1,  Tunisia - Table 2, ZA - Table 3, then other communities 
>>>>>>> follow,
>>>>>>>  so with a stop at Table - 1, it easier spotting subsequent African
>>>>>>>  countries, just like it was arranged for London?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   rex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Monday, June 15, 2015, Florence Devouard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Eh !
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  You have been very silent on this topic my friends :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  No feedback at all ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Ant
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Le 11/06/15 12:54, Florence Devouard a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hello everyone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Isla and I were talking about Wikimania this morning and an idea
>>>>>>>>>  showed up :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It seems there will be a "community village" this year in Mexico :
>>>>>>>>>  https://wikimania2015.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Village
>>>>>>>>>  Last year, it was very successful in London and many chapters had
>>>>>>>>>  their own space.
>>>>>>>>>  In most cases, there were 2-4 people sitting at each space to answer
>>>>>>>>>  any question. Posters, leaflets, books and more generally marketing
>>>>>>>>>  material. And food.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Whilst it would be probably challenging to imagine a space for each
>>>>>>>>>  user-group/chapter in Africa, we could maybe share a collective 
>>>>>>>>> space to
>>>>>>>>>  represent Africa and what is being done here. What do you think ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Through Kumusha and Wiki Loves Africa, we have a bunch of objects we
>>>>>>>>>  can show. I remember South Africa had made some leaflets about some 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>  their projects. I know Ivory Coast has made some as well. What do 
>>>>>>>>> you have
>>>>>>>>>  to share that we could put on a collective table ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Also, amongst the recognized user groups, did some already
>>>>>>>>> request a
>>>>>>>>>  space ? (Tunisia ?)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  And who is coming to Wikimania ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Anthere
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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