Le 14/06/16 à 12:24, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

Thanks for the answers. Just wondering:

"It is a mediawiki based website, which will be as much as possible set-up like our mediawiki, and which will include the most used templates."

Any special reasons why you wanna "setup like" a mediawiki when it is easier using the MediaWiki server itself?

If I understand correctly, the wikifundi will primarily provide a wiki-like platform for editors to make edits, as if they're on the live wiki, then when connected to internet later on, when the edits are copy pasted, the edits'll just feel at home.

I have the MediaWiki installed on my pc now. It runs without internet connection. Anyone in my local network gets access to it too. It functions like a local network MediaWiki. I make edits on there, and it feels and works just like live wiki.

If the wikifundi software has the goal of being setup as much as possible like MediaWiki, then what stops the use of MediaWiki itself?

Maybe, what I am thinking is, instead of a software anew, the installation for MediaWiki is made effortless, so that at hackathons etc, anyone (and literally anyone) with a Windows computer (heck, even Linux!) could just run an installer file, setting up wiki et al (assuming it doesn't already exist), then all in the local network gets to enjoy the Wikiness after hitting a local address the server is running on! I doubt a Raspberry's PI is or will be required for the above approach.

I guess wikifundi already exists, but just happened to be called MediaWiki Server[1] instead.

1. https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:Installing_MediaWiki


I have a test-suggestion for you Rex.

Let's pick up one article randomly. Let's say one of those currently on main page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin_receptor

Please do a copy and paste of this article on your own wiki. Then take screenshots of the resulting page. Put the screenshots in a dropbox and send us the link to the dropbox.

Do it. Really. *Do it please. *


Florence


PS: yes, I also had my own mediawiki installed on my hosting server during years. I used to prepare some texts there. Indeed, writing a "text" worked. But formating the text did not.


PPS: I also have provided consulting services for a few years to companies who wanted to set up their own wiki. I did not bring them help on the tech side. I helped them on the social side and training them "writing wikis". In most cases, after I showed my clients the use of [[name of article]] or [file:image.jpg|alt|100px]], their usual questions were
* How do I do a navigation palette ? (just like in Wikipedia)
* I want that infobox thing at the top of my pages (just like in Wikipedia)
* etc.

And usually... they ended up asking me to fix all that before I leave. Did I ever ? Nope. 15 years into Wikipedia and I am completely speechless (so to speak) when I look at something such as https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Main_Page/en&action=edit


PPPS: of course, WikiFundi will also be made available with an "installer" and you will be able to get it without doing it through a box. The box is one thing. WikiFundi is another thing.


On Jun 14, 2016 12:17 AM, "Florence Devouard" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Le 14/06/16 à 01:00, Nkansah Rexford a écrit :

        the coding of a software, WikiFundi, that provides an
        off-line editing environment that mimics the Wikipedia
        environment. The software will be made available in French
        and English.


    How will the edited content offline eventually get merged into
Live Wikipedia?

    This is an excellent question.
    And the answer is "manually" (copy paste) because the people
    involved considered any type of automatic merging would create
    much trouble.

    And how different will it be from Kiwix?
    Kiwix is a reader. It features the entirety of Wikipedia content,
    to be read, and only to be read.

    Wikifundi will not include Wikipedia. It is a mediawiki based
    website, which will be as much as possible set-up like our
    mediawiki, and which will include the most used templates. The
    idea is that Wikipedia style articles could be created or improved
    directly in WikiFundi  (for example during an edit-a-thon), and
    more or less copy-pasted into Wikipedia once an internet connexion
    is available. Which means that the edit-a-thon could be made with
    one box and one electrical plug, with all participants accessing
    wikifundi through the local network created by the box.

    Note that in the pack, we will provide kiwix as well.

    Flo


    rexford

    On Monday, June 13, 2016, Florence Devouard <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


        Hello everyone

        WikiAfrica has recently started a new project, the Wikipack
        Africa.

        The project amalgamates:

        * the coding of a software, WikiFundi, that provides an
        off-line editing environment that mimics the Wikipedia
        environment. The software will be made available in French
        and English.

        * the creation of action packs for use by local Wikimedia
        chapters, user groups or isolated individuals in Africa, and

        * a Wikipedia Writing Contest to be run in African Schools,
        #WikiChallenge African Schools



        It will roll out in two phases :

        Phase 1 involves the creation of the WikiPack Africa.
        WikiPack Africa is a digital kit located via a local network
        device (Raspberry PI). The local network device will provide
        access to an off-line editing platform that mimics Wikipedia,
        and provides related materials and additional OER resources.
        The WikiPack Africa will both facilitate the outreach work of
        Wikimedia chapters, User Group and individuals, and encourage
        the growth of digital skills and content contribution by
        teachers and students across Africa. The pack allows for
        ongoing training and contribution even when technology,
        access and electricity outages fail or are not available at all.

        The WikiPack Africa delivered to users will comprise two
        Raspberry PIs and some offline materials (posters, leaflets,
        pull-up banner, tee-shirts, etc.). The WikiPack will be
        delivered to several Wikimedia User Groups located in Africa
        end of 2016. A Call for Interest will be made to identify
        which groups will receive the Packs (8 countries will be
        covered as part of the pilot launch).


        The project has been conceptualised and conceived by Isla and
        myself after seeing how frustrating limited access to
        internet or even to electricity could be when trying to
        participate to Wikipedia.

        The WikiPack Africa is primarily meant for individuals and
        groups wanting to implement outreach projects and:
        * work with galleries, libraries, archives and museums to
        bring cultural content online;
        * work with education partners to get educators and students
        contribute or better understand Wikimedia projects;
        * more generally, organise edit-a-thons, photo hunts,
        workshops, press conferences, etc. to promote Wikimedia projects.



        The #WikiChallenge African Schools (Phase 2) will use the
        WikiPack Africa to facilitate an entertaining, powerful,
        collaborative and interactive content creation competition
        between schools in Sénégal, Côte d'Ivoire, Guinée, Niger,
        Tunisia, Madagascar, and Cameroon (countries may change...).
        The challenge will run early 2017.



        The full project is run in partnership with Wikimedia CH and
        the Orange Foundation. It will be primarily implemented by
        Florence, Isla and Emmanuel Engelhart (Kelson, from Kiwix)
        from May 2016 until summer 2017.

        The project proposal, its documentation and its outcomes will
        be under a CC BY SA 4.0 licence.

        ---------

        CALL for SUPPORT

        Current next steps include in particular

        * working on the WikiFundi software. This shall be lead by
        Kelson and part of the development should be done during the
        Kiwix Hackhaton prior to Wikimania. If you are interested to
        help, and simply interested to better understand what is
        planned, please get in touch;

        * working on the content that will be put on WikiFundi.
        We will NOT provide the entirety of Wikipedia on the
        plateform, but only a mix of "presentation material", some
        "help:pages", "showcase of best articles" and a large % of
        templates currently available on Wikipedia. If you want to
        help or provide insightful input, please get in touch (with
        me), by email or on the wiki talk page or during Wikimania.
        We start working on the English content first. My current
        challenge is to identify the most relevant help pages... and
        adapt them to this offline editing environnement.



        ---------

        * To read more about Wikifundi:
        https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiFundi

        * More information about the wikipack :
        https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipack_Africa/en and
        https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipack_Africa/fr

        * WikiProject page on the English Wikipedia :
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wikipack_Africa


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