Hi Flo, Is there a link to a page to record the name of the main participants? Apology, if I missed this already
Best, Isaac Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Florence Devouard <anth...@anthere.org> Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2017 02:03:24 To: <reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Mailing list for African Wikimedians<african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] 16WikiWomen Translation Drive Thanks for the proposal to help Isaac. I think I will cut the pear in half. I will look at each page history to record the name of the main participants (the people we really love and want to know more). Because this is what is important to me :) But I will not try to count every single participant. Because it just came to my mind that I have no obligations to do that. Uh. Of course, if someone is interested tracking... please feel free. This is a wiki. In the meanwhile... we are doing pretty well generally. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/tracking We now have 11/16 articles with at least 10 linguistic versions (at various stages of developement) and the most covered is in 22 languages. Many articles in Igbo, Yoruba, Swahili and Hausa appeared in the past few hours. Yeah !!! Such as * https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Karua * https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Tibaijuka * https://ig.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatou_Bensouda We got only one in Afrikaans (provided by Isla actually) * https://af.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaa_Asantewaa (help more ?) We have a very strong participation rate in Spanish, Catalan, Hebrew, Punjabi. Those people rock. A bunch of other languages here and around (I loved the Haitien Creole one ;)) * https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yaa_Asantewaa I am a bit disappointed in a rather low participation in Arabic, German and Portuguese, even though several people did really help to motivate the editors in the respective wikis. For example, Gereon set up a coordination page on de (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Translate-a-thon_für_16_afrikanische_Frauen), I posted in the pump area. People like Mounir helped to inform the arabic community and also tweeted about it. I dropped various messages in a few pumps. Isla also extended invitations to various people. So they knew... But still... de, ar and pt ... stayed low activity. Oh well. If you can relay... we have 24 hours left to improve that :) Happy Women Day ! Flo Le 07/03/2017 à 10:26, Olatunde Isaac a écrit : > Hi Flo, > > I am sorry to lean that you had difficult time dealing with tracking > participants. Actually, I foresee the challenge in tracking participants from > the onset and this is why I earlier proposed something close to option 2. > Considering the time and the technicality involves in the tracking, I think > we could go with option 3 at this time. I understand that this could be > time-consuming but it's not a difficult thing. I could help with it and > Interested members of the Wiki Loves Women team could join us. I think we > shouldn't leave this task for you alone. > > Best, > > Isaac > Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Florence Devouard <anth...@anthere.org> > Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:12:00 > To: <reachout2is...@gmail.com>; Mailing list for African > Wikimedians<african-wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org> > Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] 16WikiWomen Translation Drive > > On that matter... to propose a follow up of our prior conversation on > the foundation list Isaac... I must confess i have not been able to find > anyone to help me create automatically the list of participants to the > translation drive. > > I have tried myself quite a bit (and failed). A few others have tried as > well but obviously could not really figure out how to do the query. > > So I am still with my 2 cents question... > > * list of all editors (by username) > * who edited articles where talk pages are from that category > (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_translation) > * in a list of languages (the full list is here : > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages > but any query with 2 languages will do. I can then adapt it myself to > add the other languages) > * between date 1 and date 2 (practically speaking between 20th of Feb > and the 08 of March 2017) > * information to display : username, article name, language of the > article edited > > Current best outcome is > https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/17110 > > It displays editors to those pages in English only. And no timestamps. > > Beside solving the stamping issue, there are basically three options > left to get this type of outcome for the whole drive. > > 1. Option 1 > Figure out a way to do that query... not based on the category the > articles belong to, but based on the WikiData item. This would probably > allow to dig into info from any linguistic version of each article. > I have been trying to find someone to help me do that for the past 2 > weeks, with no good results. I fail to see why spending hours one more > day would make a big difference so I am giving up on that option. > > 2. Option 2 > Add equivalent categories to articles in all linguistic versions so that > we could track them with that query model. Main problem is language... I > can manage French... that's all. I could add an English based template > in Spanish or Catalan I guess. But arabic, punjabi, hebrew... are > just... impossible for me. I can't my way to these talk pages. Doing > this would probably imply to find someone to help tag the pages for > every covered language. Chances to succeed doing that in less than 24 > hours are next to zero. > What I have been doing in English is adding to all talk page of each > article this template : > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_16WikiWomen > And of course, from a query perspective, we would still have the problem > of the timestamp (how to find out the people who edited the biographies > AFTER the 19th of February). So we would only get the list of all people > who ever edited those articles which is different from "all people who > participated". > > 3. Option 3 > Manually go to every single article version and copy paste the username > of people who edited the article by hand in the meta page. At the > moment, this is the only feasible option. But that would take me the > best part of the day probably. And I don't have that. > > So... well... that was an experiment and I found it fun generally. But I > must admit a failure in tracking participants. It would have been nice > but I will not provide figures of "how many people participated" because > the current system as is does NOT allow me to find that anwer without > spending HOURS digging for it. In theory, there are ways to do that, but > in practice, it is simply too time consuming. And I think the time I > already spend on this... could have been better spent elsewhere. > > Florence > > > > > Le 07/03/2017 à 07:20, Olatunde Isaac a écrit : >> Dear all, >> >> The 16WikiWomen Translation Drive was covered in Brazilian media yesterday >> [1]. >> >> Congratulations to the organizers and participants. >> >> This is also to remind you that tomorrow is the International Women's Day. >> Let's celebrate African women together by joining the 16WikiWomen >> translation Drive. Can't wait to read about African women in local languages. >> >> Best, >> >> Isaac >> >> >> 1. >> www.cartaeducacao.com.br/reportagens/wikipedia-destaca-mulheres-africanas-em-edicao-especial/ >> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. >> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians _______________________________________________ African-Wikimedians mailing list African-Wikimedians@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians
