Hi Michael, There is nothing wrong in Wiki Africa becoming a user group or thematic organization (which requires a legal structure). BTW....There is an existing chapter in South Africa (see http://wikimedia.org.za) and you can't have multiple chapters in a country.
Regards, Isaac On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Muti Michael Etter-Phoya < [email protected]> wrote: > Great job on the site Isla and co. Good to see all those WikiAfrica > projects under one roof. The movt is growing. > > Wiki Africa is too thick to be defined or bottled! > > Personally I appreciate the thought but 'Wiki Africa user group' just does > not sound right. Let us continue working towards Chapters, country > usergroups, collaborations etc under the banner WikiAfrica, if that. > > Peace! > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 2:37 PM, <african-wikimedians-request@ > lists.wikimedia.org> wrote: > >> Send African-Wikimedians mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of African-Wikimedians digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: Soft launch : WikiAfrica website (Isaac Olatunde) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 08:37:00 -0400 >> From: Isaac Olatunde <[email protected]> >> To: Florence Devouard <[email protected]> >> Cc: Mailing list for African Wikimedians >> <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [African Wikimedians] Soft launch : WikiAfrica website >> Message-ID: >> <CAEKHrP5NpW1M7qxSSMJFGU6-xZKDPqdvO9aczsa5mOF3r43J4g@mail. >> gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> I mean "Wiki Africa User Group" is long overdue. >> >> Regards, >> >> Isaac >> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:31 AM, Isaac Olatunde <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi Flo, >> > >> > Thank you so much for your comprehensive clarification. I concur with >> you >> > per your elaborate explanation which is actually convincing. >> > >> > At this point, I think "Wiki Africa" is long overdue!!! >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Isaac. >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 8:23 AM, Florence Devouard <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> Being bold here... >> >> >> >> >> >> Africa Centre tried vaguely to claim intellectual property rights over >> >> the term when Isla stopped working there. It does not really make >> sense as >> >> >> >> 1) the first one to use the term (and who made the logo I think) was >> >> Iolanda back in 2006. And back then, her project was a "lettera27 >> >> Foundation project run in collaboration with Wikimedia Italia". >> >> >> >> 2), The Africa Centre first got involved in a WikiAfrica project in ... >> >> 2011, with Isla. >> >> >> >> So from an anteriority perspective... their claim can simply not make >> it. >> >> >> >> >> >> 3) Several projects which run under that banner never involved Africa >> >> Centre. For example WikiFundi was never related to them. And has been >> >> clearly called a WikiAfrica project since its inception. >> >> >> >> >> >> So if they felt they had a ground... they would complain. Which they do >> >> not. I am not aware they object to anything at the moment. >> >> >> >> >> >> Actually, Africa Center considered making a grant request to WMF a few >> >> months ago. I think for an education project. But I did not see any >> project >> >> grant from them the last two sessions, so I guess they finally decided >> >> otherwise. >> >> >> >> I think... it is normal that Africa Centre use its legacy and show what >> >> they have done in the past. I do not think they have run ANY WikiAfrica >> >> project since Isla left. At least, I am not aware of any and there is >> >> nothing new on their website. But, what was done under Africe Centre >> banner >> >> is part of their legacy. And that's a non profit organization that >> needs to >> >> show what it has done to get funding for other projects. So WikiAfrica >> is >> >> one of their programmes.. >> >> >> >> ------- >> >> >> >> I would not say WikiAfrica is a program. That's a set of initiatives >> led >> >> in the wiki world, to improve production and availability of free >> knowledge >> >> about Africa and Africa participation. In my view, that's a UserGroup. >> And >> >> we probably should create an official one at some point. But that's the >> >> concept. >> >> >> >> I think it is complementary to what the chapters and usergroup do in >> the >> >> sense that it is cross-countries. >> >> For example, a few days ago, some people decided to kick start a >> "education-focused >> >> User Group". There are education programmes in every chapter >> basically... >> >> the User Group will just be a "transversal" thing. >> >> There is also a WikiWomen UserGroup (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi >> >> ki/WikiWomen%27s_User_Group). And there are projects women related in >> >> many chapters as well. >> >> >> >> Who owns WikiAfrica ? Well, no one. Maybe we should ask for a >> >> trademark... but really... I am not sure why we should bother. >> >> >> >> If one of you guys want to start a WikiAfrica project (the missing >> >> tile...), just move on and do it. But if the project is going to be >> run in >> >> only ONE country, it is probably better to do it within your country >> >> UserGroup or Chapter. If the project is cross-country... WikiAfrica >> makes >> >> sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> (if needed, I am sure Isla or I can have other ideas for that >> nemissingw >> >> tile... we can also make an entire NEW ROW ! Trust that part) >> >> >> >> ------- >> >> >> >> To go back to the Africa Center question... I see no problem for them >> to >> >> run projects under the WikiAfrica banner... >> >> * as long as they do not claim they own the whole stuff... >> >> * as long as they do not claim they managed all the WikiAfrica >> >> projects... >> >> * as long as they do not prevent others to run projects under this >> >> banner... >> >> * as long as the projects are within values and rules consistant to >> what >> >> wikimedians would consider the "right thing" (such as free licence >> outcome >> >> etc.) >> >> >> >> If they start a new project within this framework... that can be the >> >> missing tile ;) >> >> >> >> >> >> The last projects we run, we did so with other hosts and partners >> >> (Wikimedia CH, Ynternet.org and Goethe Institute in particular). We >> may run >> >> future ones under the newborn Wiki in Africa association. We may also >> run >> >> them with the Kiwix association. Who knows !!!! >> >> >> >> We thought important to have a place to showcase those projects as a >> >> whole. We also thought important to acknowledge the role each of those >> >> hosts and partners have played. Africa Centre certainly played an >> important >> >> part there and it is important that its role and involvement be >> recognised. >> >> But it is one amongst others. As displayed here : >> >> http://www.wikiafrica.org/category/wikiafrica-is-hosted-and- >> supported-by/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Flo >> >> >> >> Le 09/06/2017 à 13:23, Isaac Olatunde a écrit : >> >> >> >> Thank you, Isla. >> >> >> >> My understanding of your comment is that "Wiki Africa" is an >> intellectual >> >> property of Flo, Lopenza and you and Africa Center do not have any >> control >> >> over it. Correct? Per the claim here, <http://www.africacentre.net/> >> do >> >> you think Africa Center is mistaken? or they are in fact, correct (i.e >> it's >> >> their program, they owns it? >> >> >> >> Let me know if you wish to discuss off-list. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Isaac >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Isla Haddow-Flood < >> >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >>> It is on a wordpress site is there a problem with it Rexford? >> >>> >> >>> Excuse the brevity, sent from my iPhone. >> >>> >> >>> On 08 Jun 2017, at 22:32, Nkansah Rexford <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Is there any chance the website could use a WordPress theme instead of >> >>> this custom made one? >> >>> >> >>> Something similar along the lines of what was used for the >> >>> wikilovesafrica website? >> >>> >> >>> rexford >> >>> >> >>> On Thursday, June 8, 2017, Isla Haddow Flood <[email protected] >> > >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Hello >> >>>> >> >>>> After a lot of time and effort, we are VERY pleased to announce the >> >>>> launch for the WikiAfrica.org website. www.wikiafrica.org >> >>>> >> >>>> The website has been completely revamped in order to give due credit >> to >> >>>> all the members of the moment - including sponsors, hosts and, of >> course, >> >>>> to showcase the projects. Please feel free to look through the >> website and >> >>>> suggest changes or where you feel more information could be added. >> At the >> >>>> moment, the information is very sparse and is designed to lead >> people to >> >>>> investigate the projects in more depth via their own websites, or to >> get >> >>>> involved with the existing wikimedia chapters and affiliates. >> >>>> >> >>>> We look forward to your feedback, >> >>>> >> >>>> Isla and Florence >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> *Isla Haddow-Flood* >> >>>> Co-project Manager >> >>>> Username: Islahaddow >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> African-Wikimedians mailing listAfrican-Wikimedians@lists. >> wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> african-wikimedians >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/african-wikimedians/a >> ttachments/20170609/363cc141/attachment.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> _______________________________________________ >> African-Wikimedians mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of African-Wikimedians Digest, Vol 9, Issue 93 >> ************************************************** >> > > > _______________________________________________ > African-Wikimedians mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/african-wikimedians > >
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