Ah yes, I know Dumi. Thanks a lot for the heads up, it's really great that that project is going on. I didn't knew of this new activity you pointed to: https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap/Mozambique I'll get in touch with him, as I seem to recall what was missing last time was someone speaking Portuguese able to speak about Wikimedia. If that is possible/useful, I can try to help with that from here (remotely).
Thanks again, Paulo Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> escreveu no dia sexta, 22/03/2019 à(s) 02:12: > Fortunately one of our colleagues Dumisani Ndubane -who's also active in > the Xitsonga Wikipedia - has started some ground work there and I > understand he's going back for a 2nd round of edit workshops next week > Monday. @Paulo I think you can contact him. > > https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiGap/Mozambique > > Regards, > Bobby Shabangu > > On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 1:17 AM Paulo Santos Perneta, <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We don't even have a Portuguese speaking Mozambican community (not even a >> single editor, AFAIK) at the Portuguese Wikipedia. All my efforts on FB and >> other social media to reach out to people of Mozambique went unanswered. >> When we are having a tremendous difficulty in building even a community >> that should be fairly easy to build (at least in Maputo, which has been >> quite developed in last years), I've not any hope on even going into >> subjects that are even quite difficult for us here in Europe with all the >> possibilities we have (small languages like Mirandese come to mind). >> >> Anyway, if there is some way I personally, as well as Wikimedia Portugal, >> can help on that quest, or in anything else related to community building >> in Mozambique, please tell. We would really like to see a Wikimedia >> community starting in Mozambique, should they speak Tsonga, Portuguese, or >> any other language people may have. >> >> Cheers, >> Paulo >> >> Cornelius Kibelka <[email protected]> escreveu no dia >> quinta, 21/03/2019 à(s) 22:56: >> >>> Having lived in Mozambique for a while I can just say that it will be >>> really, really hard to create any community besides one working on the >>> Portuguese-speaking projects. Most of the Mozambican languages are rarely >>> written, some of them (especially the Northern ones) are not even >>> alphabetized or even lexicalized, and none is taught in school or used by >>> authorities (contrary to anything that is happening in South Africa). >>> >>> (sorry for my saddening comment) >>> >>> Cheers >>> Cornelius >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Cornelius Kibelka >>> >>> Internationale Beziehungen | International Relations >>> Vorstandsteam | Office of the ED >>> >>> >>> >>> Bobby Shabangu <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 21. März 2019, >>> 22:00: >>> >>>> In South Africa we have the distance advantage plus we share the Tsonga >>>> language with these people. >>>> >>>> So, I'll speak to the Wikimedia South African chapter and find out if >>>> our mission aligned partners in South Africa can't connect us with >>>> communities over there to run edit workshops. Our partners with branches in >>>> Mozambique include the Goethe Institut and the Swedish embassy. We can >>>> also contact Edwardo Mondlane University to find out if we can't run an >>>> edit workshop with their library department. >>>> >>>> There's no formula for making a Wikipedian but it would be worth a try >>>> to actually go there and see if we can't spread the word about Wikipedia. >>>> >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Bobby Shabangu >>>> >>>> On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 9:08 PM Amir E. Aharoni, < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Following the terrible news of the natural disasters in Mozambique, I >>>>> looked at which languages are spoken there. >>>>> >>>>> As in many other African countries, the official language is a >>>>> European one, Portuguese. There's a large Wikipedia in it, but less than >>>>> half of the people in Mozambique actually know it (according to >>>>> Ethnologue, >>>>> https://www.ethnologue.com/country/MZ/languages ). >>>>> >>>>> I could find only one native languages of Mozambique in which there is >>>>> a Wikipedia: Tsonga. This Wikipedia is very small, but it has a small >>>>> group >>>>> of dedicated editors. >>>>> >>>>> All the other languages of Mozambique don't have any Wikipedia at all: >>>>> Makhuwa, Lomwe, Tswa, Mwera, and others. They don't even have an >>>>> Incubator. >>>>> >>>>> So, this is a very long shot, but I'll mention this anyway: If, in the >>>>> wake of this catastrophe, or at any other point and for whatever reason, >>>>> someone raises the idea of writing Wikipedia articles in any of these >>>>> languages, please remember that the fact that there is no Wikipedia or >>>>> incubator in them *now* is not an excuse for not doing it. Anyone who can >>>>> write in them can be the first person to do it. An Incubator can be >>>>> created >>>>> at any point in any language, and I'll be happy to assist anyone who is >>>>> interested in doing this. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>>>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>>>> “We're living in pieces, >>>>> I want to live in peace.” – T. 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