Alan,

I am commenting in between but am not sure Spark on the iPad seems handles that 
properly.

el

On 17 Nov 2017, 09:45 +0200, Alan Levin <a...@futureperfect.co.za>, wrote:
> Hi Michele et al
>
> > On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight 
> > <mich...@blacknight.com> wrote
> >
> > […]
> >
> > > And either way it’s not just Africa
> > > The Latin American market is as bad if not worse, with many ccTLDs in the 
> > > region looking for $50+ per year.
> >
> > Yes, in this case I'm not trying to assist Latin Americans since I live in 
> > Africa and I want to support my African colleagues...   I think that we've 
> > all learned that it's not helpful to close domains or wrap them up in 
> > bureaucracy and high annual costs...  I think by enabling people (globally) 
> > to easily register new ones it's simply broad based economic and social 
> > development opportunities that seem to be missed by these operators.
> >
> > EL:
> > Thank you for your concern about the ccTLD managers, but in some cases, as 
> > in ours, ‘seems’ just doesn’t do it. In some cases, such as ours, the ccTLD 
> > Managers have a plan.
> > In many others, no amount of support will help. Been there, done that, got 
> > the T-Shirt, didn’t move on.
> >
> > EL:
> > And, have you ever asked those who you want to support, whether they/we 
> > want/need this ‘support’?
> >
> > > Also, if you look at the African ccTLDs there are still quite a few that 
> > > don’t offer any level of automation or a proper registrar system so it’s 
> > > hard to see how they’d scale.
> >
> > Yes. There are many registry service providers that are helping or trying 
> > to help African cctlds... even in Africa... this is no excuse for failure!
> >
> > EL:
> > I agree with you in some way, CoCCATools is there, but it’s much deeper.
> >
> > EL:
> > It is secondary to proper structure. There are at least two African ccTLDs 
> > running outdated versions of CoCCATools, have an enourmous staff/management 
> > turnover, hardly any invoicing/accounting, and focus on numbers of domain 
> > names instead of getting their house in order.
> >
> > EL:
> > Commercial Registry service providers are not only wrong from a 
> > developmental aspect, but also the service they provide is shockingly bad 
> > (I see their raw zone and whois data once in a while) as they put exactly 
> > zero effort into it once landing the gig (no real profit to be made).
> >
> > > But why do you want them to buy African domains? A domain by itself is of 
> > > no value. If you are trying to encourage content then it’s a very 
> > > different conversation
> >
> > My clients provide service to African countries.  They travel there and 
> > assist to build things, fix things, help people, doctors, engineers, 
> > teachers, etc..
> >
> > They think that buying their domain names is a way to show commitment to 
> > them. Unfortunately I need to explain this is a false view.
> >
> > EL:
> > This level of ‘commitment’ leads us to the great no-good-do-gooders debate 
> > which was sufficiently exhausted on the DEVEL-L List in the early 90’
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> >
> > Alan
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