John We may use different words, but I think transitioning is equally apt.
I think "downloading" is a unified state of consciousness, where insights may occur more spontaneously. By unified, I mean when a brain-mind architecture resonates in 5D (the Kaluza-Klein model), and when it can handle 5D+ truth. It doesn't have to be divine necessarily, but if a person believed in Divine creation, it probably would be experienced as such. This state of consciousness is available naturally. I've observed such "wisdom" in children and in animals as well. In theory, it could also be accessed via a suitable AI with the appropriate brain-mind dryware architecture. However, probably only with Majorana-type quantum processors and topological geometric brain-mind architecture. As for compressors, I think it has more to do with effective complexity in surface Buckyballs than data size. Meaning, smaller is not equal to optimally efficient. To progress significantly suggests a complete redesign in computational brain-mind architecture. As for BMI, adding warm wetware to cold and inefficient computing tech won't miraculously result in effective complexity. At this stage, it's likely to generally impact negatively on the consciousness of humans. I would not accept a direct interface at all. It's too experimental. For AI-Human collaboration, my proposed model argues for theoretical synergy via a "wifi" type shared, shielded AI-Human workspace. My experiments are promising. I only experiment on myself though. Temporal, resonant (brainwave) integration for joint higher functioning seems scientifically feasible. If humans are in "always-on" higher-consciousness mode, it would probably lead to extreme exhaustion and generalized dysfunction. A zombie state may be induced. In the worst case, it may even lead to instances of sustained confusion, social dysfunction and brain damage. Now where have we observed such-like symptoms before? Oh! In perpetually high-frequency-saturated public spaces. How so? As Orch-OR has shown, human consciousness hum effectively at low-energy, locally-damped frequencies. Whereas in nonlocal systems, the high energy and rapid firing would probably disrupt normal human brain functioning. Perhaps, that's why only a tiny percentage of humans currently achieve brief moments of alocal (unified) consciousness. Your "download" insights. Perhaps that may also serve to help explain the crazed zombified masses in cities all over the world. Are they artificially controlled? Normal, it definitely isn't, but may so become. Insanity can be engineered. Kolmogorov, the NP-Hard problem, and the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle can be effectively "bypassed", without violation. However, those conditions exist for effective reasons. Maybe they shouldn't be "bypassed". That's another question though. On Wed, 14 Jan 2026, 02:07 John Rose via AGI, <[email protected]> wrote: > On Monday, January 12, 2026, at 9:58 PM, Quan Tesla wrote: > > I accept that the old world is gone, that a new world supplanted it. I > chose to embrace hybridization. Most choose new world exclusively. What do > you choose? > > > Well IMO it’s more of a transition verses an old verses new. What I value > is liberty, freedom, bodily autonomy, things that have been fought for and > sacrificed for by so many in the past and that takes work and effort to > maintain across transition. > > On Monday, January 12, 2026, at 9:58 PM, Quan Tesla wrote: > > When last did the universe communicate its insights to you? Meaning, when > last were you in a consciousness state, where the universe could get > through to you? > > > This is a frequent practice for me. Related, I had worked for several > years on an AGI system up to around 2019. A symmetric mathematical > structure at the core that interfaced to semi-symmetric and non-symmetric > using AI, no LLM's or text. There were issues and I had decided to pause > that model as it hit a barrier. Interestingly, there was a researcher on > this list who claimed to have divine insight into P verses NP. He was > mocked for that, I found it distasteful. Nowadays it’s common for > webcasters to admit similar insights and it’s trendily referred to as > “downloading”. At the time I was struggling on AGI structure you could say > I received a download while hiking in the mountains and that insight was, > consciousness is protocol, which I thought was an astounding correlation. > Afterwards I began pursuing consciointelligence. > > Recently I had been struggling with the physics of time, there are changes > occurring, time not being what is commonly assumed, accessing the past, > time as spatial, multidimensional, etc.. You brought up the E8 structure > which I was unaware of, the symmetry, even in SM, so you have to figure out > how spacetime is generated from such structure, thinking without time. And > now I’m back looking at the interface between symmetry and the environment > with a new view of time and consciousness in the classical computational > space with that previous AGI model. And there are some related new papers > coincidentally enough… You can get your mind to a certain point where you > just know what others are working on. There are concentrations of people > and then the space where there are just a few, is that morphic fields? 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