Wow! Speak about drift! Basically, the AI concludes a wordy point that the problem under consideration is all relative and for more certainty to emerge, requires a more-rigorous "auditable" approach congruent with "good science" vs trusting the haphazard "just trust me" narrative.
Either way, until the physics is resolved, both models remain bounded by the GIGO principle. In essence arguing for an open-systems approach vs a closed-systems approach, even while acknowledging it's a closed, biased system. IMO, the real value lies in the open debate you had, not in the arbitrary conclusions. This identifies the statistical/probabilistic target as being contentious "emergence". The real solution to any paradox is inherent in its permissible compromise. Transcend the hard GIGO barrier. On Fri, 12 Jun 2026, 02:38 James Bowery, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2026 at 9:02 AM Matt Mahoney <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> One of the many statistical models listed was MDL, minimum description >> length. Proving that no shorter description exists is not computable. The >> long list of other models are computable approximations of MDL. Some work >> better than others, depending on the data. >> > > Real world measurements can, of course, be compressed by statistical > methods but interventions that don't require programming languages > presenting a fiction of Turing completeness only work for situations that > aren't dynamic. > > The Supersonic Tsunami of AGI will put a lot more babies at risk than the > next Baby Hitler or the next Baby Rissannen if those with the data and > computation keep excusing themselves with arguments like the one you just > made. > > See where this conversation with Anthropic ended up: > > https://claude.ai/share/8ad79e30-9cc6-4d0a-9082-bf800bb2045e > > *Artificial General Intelligence List <https://agi.topicbox.com/latest>* > / AGI / see discussions <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi> + > participants <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/members> + > delivery options <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription> > Permalink > <https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5b182c3fd14f61e9-M1fb9e96333bd749ec580350b> > ------------------------------------------ Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/T5b182c3fd14f61e9-Mbc910a8486d12fc102bf34f2 Delivery options: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/subscription
