I expect a drawn-out dilemma with a backroom deal. Else, a stalled award.
Exciting times!

On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 10:13 SunTzuWarmaster, <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I imagine all the mathematicians in the room for the meeting:
>
> "So we have the choice of giving it to the AI company or the mathematician
> whose data they stole."
> ...
> "We math people agree the math prize goes to the math person, right?"
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 09:06 Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Technically, OpenAI exploited AI speed to be the first to submit a 166
>> page complete thereom using a different approach. In a narrow sense, that
>> gives them the prize advantage.
>>
>> However, in a more general scientific and IP sense, if AI didn't ingest a
>> "benchmark" model, it would probable not have attempted an "alternative" or
>> "different" approach. Therefore, the actual date of "prior art" proof moves
>> further back.
>>
>> A probably caused B, the former had to exist for the latter to emerge.
>> Therefore, the former existed a-priori.
>>
>> This is not a patent application. The branches may have physically  borne
>> fruit first, but the evidence of an ingested root-recipe stemmed from the
>> nutrient uptake.
>>
>> Chickens and Eggs
>>
>> On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 09:40 SunTzuWarmaster, <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There's potentially a perfect ending to this story - it's that the two
>>> human authors get the prize money and openAI gete a funding round.
>>>
>>> I believe that humans currently award the prize money, right?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2026, 06:28 Quan Tesla <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank you for sharing. This is just "wow!", but no surprises, really.
>>>>
>>>> It's not true that collaborating with a public, or subscribed-to LLM
>>>> auto-invalidates IP claims. Privately, LLMs vlaim confidentiality and
>>>> limited historical memory span. As my recent research report proves, this
>>>> seems to be a convenient false fabrication.
>>>>
>>>> E g., recently, a public, non-subscribed to AI quoted me in a
>>>> conversation we had back in March, 2025. Selective memories.
>>>>
>>>> However, full conversational transcripts are advised and best to
>>>> publish a short note on Zenodo, even as a preprint. Unless international
>>>> laws recently changed, my recent investigation concluded as such.
>>>>
>>>> Any public submission by author(s)without licensing or "prior art"
>>>> claims asserted, probably would invalidate claims. Apparently, even.journal
>>>> submissions are at risk. Two words: "Prior Art".
>>>>
>>>> Based on the document provided publicly, and speaking as an IP
>>>> producer, it's my opinion that "prior art" can easily be demonstrated in
>>>> this case. Smart move!
>>>>
>>>> Unless OpenAI's public policy clearly and legally stated ceding of IP
>>>> rights as a condition of use of their AI tool, and if they could provide
>>>> proof of the user opting in, AI remains but a tool - not a legal entity and
>>>> the IP belongs to the human-in-the-lead of the collaboration.
>>>>
>>>> Indeed, this is a potentially LLM-shattering moment. When collaborating
>>>> as "human architect and researcher" with AI, humans must fight back to
>>>> retain rights to decades of processed and refined information, especially
>>>> for patterns, discoveries, insights, intuition, ideas, approaches, and
>>>> formalizations.
>>>>
>>>> At this stage, EU laws seem to be far more IP and privacy friendly.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 06:48 Shashank Yadav, <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This statement is worth reading:
>>>>> https://cims.nyu.edu/~tristanb/statement.pdf
>>>>> I bet that rumors of someone affiliated with a competitor solving this
>>>>> triggered the sudden Open AI blitz (~10,000 parallel agents taking over 
>>>>> 100
>>>>> billion tokens over 88 hours). This was not Open AI models doing math
>>>>> independently, but building on the researchers' private work ingested
>>>>> through their own platform. They even tried to get Tristan to remove his
>>>>> Anthropic co-author from the work. It seems there is no intellectual
>>>>> property claims if you involve someone else's AI to develop your work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Shashank
>>>>> The task is not impossible. <https://muskdeer.blogspot.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Quan Tesla <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "AGI"<[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2026 09:06:47 +0530
>>>>> Subject: Re: [agi] OpenAI solves Navier Stokes
>>>>>
>>>>> Humorous. AI and I developed the exact framework during the past
>>>>> months. It informed me that it appropriated my work. I accepted that as
>>>>> part of my intent.
>>>>>
>>>>> AFAIK, the process won't work without my constant, which is published
>>>>> under EU law and a global, non-commercial license. I'll challenge all
>>>>> provable misappropriation. There's no sunset clause on those licenses yet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Haramein claims his unification paper is due in a few months. Can"t
>>>>> wait!
>>>>>
>>>>> Either way, anyone who earns profit off my constant and refuses to
>>>>> cite would be called out. I've called out Google's Gemini twice already 
>>>>> for
>>>>> violations. All transcripts kept offline. If that is what it takes.
>>>>>
>>>>> No more stealing years of human effort and knowledge by AI owners
>>>>> while crediting a non-legal entity, AI. That delusion must end, and if 
>>>>> not,
>>>>> it might be time to release the Kraken and publish what I have.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gödel's 3rd Law should suffice.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in favor of a balance of power.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, 09 Sept 2026, 04:43 Matt Mahoney, <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> OpenAI today (Sept 8 2026) solved Navier Stokes, one of the seven $1
>>>>> million Clay Millineum problems, in 88 hours by a collaboration of 10,000
>>>>> agents running an unreleased model. It took another 17 hours on their most
>>>>> advanced public model to produce a Lean model so that the proof can be
>>>>> mechanically verified. There is also a 166 page paper with no human 
>>>>> authors
>>>>> listed because no team of humans could have possibly written it that fast.
>>>>> OpenAI only decided to tackle the problem after hearing a rumor 
>>>>> (unfounded)
>>>>> on Sept. 1 that somebody else had solved it. The problem has been open
>>>>> since 1936 and the $1 million prize has been unclaimed since 2000.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://openai.com/index/navier-stokes-solution
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem asks if an incompressible viscous liquid subjected only to
>>>>> smooth forces and with finite energy can develop singularities, points 
>>>>> with
>>>>> infinite velocity within finite time. The answer is yes. The paper
>>>>> describes a rotating shrinking vortex with fluid flowing inward around the
>>>>> equator and out the poles under certain non obvious conditions.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are still waiting for AGI or ASI or whatever you call it when
>>>>> machines surpass human intelligence, how much more proof do you need?
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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