That is because Matt is a sort of hybrid mutant creature: half-troll / half-human 8-D ...
ben g On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Juan Carlos Kuri Pinto <[email protected]>wrote: > *Matt Mahoney is the ultimate troll: 18 responses to this thread so far. > :-)* > > On Tue, Dec 25, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Logan Streondj <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hey, so HSPL/GI-OS is an AGI project where increments are readily >> testable, >> in fact each new increment has a new test for it's functionality, as new >> features are added. >> >> The roadmap leads all the way to intelligent AGI societies, space travel >> and all that. Obviously that is going to be a long way off and in the next >> few years are still going to be working on the programming language. >> >> Though even within the programming language roadmap we have the capacity >> of fault-tolerance will be added, through the use of "OR" sentences, >> allowing for multiple routes to solving a problem, it can then take >> advantage of parallel processors by attempting several solution styles at >> once, and using one or more of their results to get a best solution. >> >> Meanwhile it's a road of integrating all the various innovation that have >> happened in computers from bottom up in a human speakable format. >> >> Likely we'll support low-level cognitive processes long before we support >> the high-level ones, similar to how brains evolved over time, starting >> with he lowest levels and working up. Some studies have showed that >> without the emotional brain the logical brain is rather useless, since it's >> the emotional brain that makes the decision, whereas the higher brain >> simply looks at the options. >> >> Anyways so my point being that it is possible to have incremental testing >> metrics for an AGI project. >> >> In terms of funding my idea is to make an amendment forum feature-request >> system with support for "bidding donations" in terms that people can donate >> to the project and use the credits to bid on a feature request, then the >> developer that implements the features request or bug-fix gets large >> percentage of the money. >> >> I might develop it in parallel (PHP/SQL) in order to support the >> development of HSPL/GI-OS though it can also be used for other open source, >> community and charitable projects. >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:39 PM, Ben Goertzel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> Steve, >>> >>> I am adjusting your statement to add what I think is missing: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "any prospective AGI platform absolutely **MUST** be capable of *rapidly >>>>> learning to* perform*ing* substantially all of the high-level >>>>> cognitive information processing functions that have been observed in >>>>> human >>>>> mind/brains *without carefully ignoring areas (like the hypothalamus) >>>>> that perform functions that appear incompatible with the platform.*" >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The hypothalamus is not a function, but rather a system. So to accord >>> with my statement you would need to enumerate which of the human mind's >>> high-level cognitive functions you think OpenCog (or other AGi designs) >>> ignores due to not adequately including sufficiently "hypothalamus-like" >>> components or processes... >>> >>> Also, I don't agree at all that an AGi must be capable fo rapidly >>> learning to perform all its high-level functions. A human mind learns to >>> cognize over a period of years, and does so via a complex combination of >>> learning with the scheduled/triggered unveiling of genetically encoded >>> capabilities.... Similarly I think it's OK if an AGi learns its cognitive >>> capabilities over a period of years, and if it leverages some appropriately >>> in-built capabilities. A human mind is not a tabula rasa, and nor need an >>> AGI mind be... >>> >>> -- Ben G >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/5037279-a88c7a6d> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/23601136-98835e3f> | >> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >> <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/212726-deec6279> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- Ben Goertzel, PhD http://goertzel.org "My humanity is a constant self-overcoming" -- Friedrich Nietzsche ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
