Regardless of how well it actually works, I expect that we will see better versions in the future.
And I agree that modeling the retina and visual cortex is the right way to do this. On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM, tintner michael <[email protected]>wrote: > http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2013/10/captcha-busted/ > > [Vicarious are Dileep George, Hawkin's ex-man, no?] > > CAPTCHA creator Luis van Ahn, a computer scientist at Carnegie Mellon > University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, is not convinced. He sent > ScienceNOW this defiant message: > > "This is the 50th time somebody claims this. I don’t really get how they > think this is news :) > > If their program is actually a break, we can simply add more distortion or > switch to image-based CAPTCHAs." > > And the prog. does indeed fail its first tests. > > P.S. > "Breaking CAPTCHA wasn’t the goal, says Phoenix. “It was just a sanity > check. We believe that higher level intelligences are all built on the > somatosensory system. So that’s why we started with vision.” The company > plans to hook up this visual system to robots. The benchmark then will be, > for example, “Preparing a meal in an arbitrary kitchen.” > > The GO TO THE KITCHEN Woz Test meme is catching. > > > > > > On 28 October 2013 14:02, tintner michael <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2303350/google-updates-recaptcha-tool-to-beat-the-spambots >> >> >> On 28 October 2013 10:44, tintner michael <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I should add that I agree to some extent with the conclusion: >>> >>> "We should be careful not to underestimate the significance of Vicarious >>> crossing this milestone," adding that the company is "at the forefront of >>> building the first truly intelligent machines." >>> >>> The ability to solve the problem Hofstadter identified - of recognizing >>>> endlessly diversifying A fonts (the essence of the CAPTCHA problem) - >>>> would constitute a major and first breakthrough towards AGI. >>> >>> >>> I will put my arse on the line, and say no algo will ever do this. A >>> different, new computational approach is required >>> >>> >>> On 28 October 2013 10:27, tintner michael <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/28/captcha-defeated-by-computer-software_n_4168784.html >>>> >>>> [I bet it *doesn't* work remotely that well - >>>> >>>> Vicarious said its algorithm achieves success rates of 90 to 97 percent >>>> ] >>>> >>> >>> >> > *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/3701026-786a0853> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > -- -- Matt Mahoney, [email protected] ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
