I mean easy to discern.

Jim Bromer

Why nod - just start with simple projections of conjectured relations.


On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> Failure Analysis presupposes a fine discrimination of what constitutes a
> failure. The ability to reliably create a good theory in response to a
> failure requires intelligence as a pre-requisite. I studied a lot different
> kinds of ideas like this 20 or 30 years ago.  But, as far as I am concerned
> the real question now is how can we reliably create a better theory from
> earlier theories. Part of the problem is that we may, in many cases, not
> have a good criteria to determine how good the theory is and a good theory
> may fail because a minor part of it is not reliable.
> The kinds of discussions that we have in these groups are demonstrations
> of this problem but they are usually complicated theories that are largely
> based on basic assumptions that we can develop well. (Notice that some
> people have assumptions that seem obviously wrong and there can be other
> assumptions that people disagree with even though they cannot substantiate
> their point of view. For example, some people think my theory that a
> polynomial time solution to logical satisfiability is quite possible seems
> like blatant nonsense to some people, while I think their certainty about
> something which is famously unproven is based on some pretty insubstantial
> premises.
>
> So what do I do to try to create a better theory. I keep trying different
> things and if the results do not produce any improvements then I have to
> adjust my expectations of the feasibility of finding  a solution. On the
> other hand, if I find something that works in a variety of simple cases
> then I can keep trying more complicated cases to see if it works within the
> significant characteristics of the problem. (Like looking at the increase
> in complexity for the worse cases as the number of variables increase, and
> then examining a range of problems in well-known formats like 3-SAT.)
>
> But failure in Logical Satisfiability is easy to discriminate as long as
> you are careful.
>
> Jim Bromer
>
> Why nod - just start with simple projections of conjectured relations.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 24, 2014 at 2:53 AM, Piaget Modeler via AGI <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm just beginning this enquiry,
>>
>> Found this:   http://research.me.udel.edu/~jglancey/FailureAnalysis.pdf
>>
>> as well as a pointer to Anticipatory Failure Determination (AFD)
>>
>> Cheers so far...
>>
>> ~PM
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: [email protected]
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [agi] Failure Predictors
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 23:13:51 -0700
>>
>>
>> Wonder if anyone is still alive on this thread besides Jim B.
>>
>> I guess it's the summer.
>>
>>
>> When we experience an expectation failure, somehow I think we form a
>> theory of the failure, and seek to elaborate that theory.
>>
>> I don't have the right keywords but is there any literature or research
>> on creating failure predictors, or forming failure hypotheses?
>>
>> Kindly advise.
>>
>> ~PM
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