Some of what you said resonates with me. I think that daydreaming occurs when you have sufficient processing capacity available and there are no novel problems in the current environment. In PAM.P2 I have a distinction between reasoning (operations on the internal ontology) and planning (operations on the external world). My first thought was that daydreaming involved more planning than reasoning, but now I think it may involve a combination of the two. I think daydreaming is instigated by some pertinent (relevant or applicable) memory combined with a pendinggoal. Possibly also, a hypothetical context can be created to reason through possible steps of a solution in order to derive new knowledge. Hope that makes sense. ~PM From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [agi] Daydreaming... Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 22:30:48 +0200
Hi PM This is a very interesting question. I have never thought of it before, but I'll try and share my thoughts only. I think, first it has to depend on the likely cause of the daydream, for example, is it a result of a state of autism, an absence seizure perhaps, an image that emerged from an unconscious state of meditation, or a story put together by the consciousness for a particular reason? For purposes of my reply, I'm going to assume the brain is of normal function and that the images emerged from an unconscious, meditative state. I'm referring to the unconsciousness first, for a conscious state of meditation may emerge what is called a vision, which I think should be different to what is referred to as a daydream. The key word here is the absence of a particular, conscious state of meditation. Topic of daydreams? How are they possibly selected? First, it must be a paradox, for a daydream should fall into the disorder category of consciousness, but my notion is that the unconsciousness and even the subconscious mind may be involved also. It could be a consequence of a creative thought. I think a most-likely location of origination stems from the subconscious. Using the axiom: shit floats to the top (pardon the crudeness), one may assume that the most probabilistic topics may also be in the front of the queue, or multiple queues of the subconscious mind, waiting to be engaged when an ideal brain state is detected. When the consciousness signals a ready state, as in reserve capacity of sorts, the topic would be retrieved by the consciousness and loaded into a enrichment environment where it would be made sense of relative to a referring schema of that particular brain. The enrichment process may include contribution from the unconscious mind and engage the conscious mind as well, and so a dynamically rich and elastic image may emerge within the time-space screen of the consciousness as if it were really being observed, but only from an imaginary screen on the inside of the mind, and presented as a trailer of sorts to the brain. It might be in 2D or 3D, black and white or colour, or any combination of all the projection options. The consciousness may then choose to further enrich the topic with recall information to make it more relevant as information input for classification, storage and retrieval purposes. The movie plays inside the head to the extent that it could be viewed by the inner eyes, as a projection, or a hologram effect, either in the mind, or in the time-space before one's eyes. The auditory and speech functions may be toned out to afford maximum opportunity for the daydream to reach its end state. While the movie is playing other topics in the queue may be released to become entangled in the movie playing and thus relieve the subconscious of its current payload. The information and the form and function of the daydream would probably be classified in contextual form and stored away in an appropriate folder for future enrichment, and or to provide a further version of a daydream not yet completed, or logically associated with a prior one. Such a mechanism would allow for a daydream to be paused and stopped, as when a daydreamer is being interrupted and has to "snap" back to the external perspective. The daydream might even be able to process more slowly or remain on standby for as long as that particular area of the brain is not demanded of in full. it could, in effect, linger and even resume. This could be similar to "holding" a thought. It seems logical that only once the daydream has completed its current daydream in full, then a further instance of subconscious information, as input to a likely topic, would move to the top of the queue. As such then, somewhere there must be a signal to the subconscious of the state the daydream must be in. This signal could well be a chemical signal (slower moving) that would trigger the quantum engine of the subconscious, as opposed to an electrical one. On the other hand, it might be that the consciousness might be experiencing a sense-making problem with a collection of information and may invoke a daydream from the same location, and control it to resolve such a problem. In such a case, the daydream topic would then originate from the prioritization list of "things to do" of the consciousness. I think the consciousness would be able to differentiate between these two types of daydreams, for they may have different purposes in terms of sense making, classification, storage and retrieval and sharing with the rest of the mind. One must leave the door open for the possibility of other types of daydreams as well, but this is as far as my current thought can stretch. This thought has allowed for both a classical and quantum interaction in the daydream process(es). Daydream contents? I think your question 2 may well include all 3 options you provided, as indicated by my thought above. Rob From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [agi] Daydreaming... Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 07:46:28 -0800 1. How does one choose the topic of their daydreams? It happens automatically, I know, but what is your hypothesis as to the selection process? 2. Are daydreams mostly action oriented, or is there reasoning and inference occurring as well? 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