Also, I think the idea of turning funds over to AI managed software is a little scary. In the event of some major market shaking event, what ethics of opportunity topology shuts down the bots, rather than them seeing it as just another arbitrage opportunity? I don't see many good ways for the SEC to punish a rogue algorithm.
At the least, the Enron traders and their bosses eventually got their asses kicked by the legal profession even if it was a day late and a dollar short. We had similar nonsense go off when the mortgage meltdown turned a bunch of sophisticated mathematical candy floss into a smoking crater in the ground (Thank you Congress and a bunch of over-educated Ivy League kids). Hey, what the hell do I know, I'm just a metallurgist and inventor and occasional consultant and.. nevermind. I just worry.. failure analysts are good at anxiety and paranoia. -GJS On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Greg Staskowski <[email protected]> wrote: > All right! #HAJIME! #ITSON! I like seeing the hardware vs. software > argument presented very rationally and point by point in terms of the > adaptive control systems paradigm (ecch, I know I couldn't think of a less > overused word). > > I come down on the side of hardware for this stuff and what I really want > to understand is the quantum biophysics of the brain. If we are really > going for "the whole enchilada" that is "embodied or unembodied reasoning, > Turing or non-Turing, consciousness" rather than "just another algorithm, > JA^2" I think this thing has to start from the hardware or wetware up and > that means we need to really understand the quantum biophysics of a living, > functioning human or whale brain. Hey, good luck getting the funding for > whale brains of course. > > This is a "non trivial" problem. Now Wolfram et al seems to think this > whole deal starts down at the level of cellular automata but don't quote me > on that because d00d is kinda a Genius at this stuff. I tend to come out > more on the side of ethics and applications especially in terms of > diversified system operators, the IOT (Internet of things) and agents for > selection of what I call "opportunity topology." If we want to start > experimenting with silicon though, Northwestern has a NuFab facility where > you can work out new silicon at what are basically bargain rates. Check it > out. I think this stuff is way too complex to simulate and the only way to > get there is Wright Brothers style. Iterate, re-design, Iterate, re-design > till you run out of money of course. > > That is my opinion, I could be wrong. > > -GJS > > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Stefan Pernar <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The page limit apparently applies to publication the proceedings. >> >> A fair bit of bible references for sure. Have a read. Really appreciate >> every pair of eyes that goes over it. >> On 05/05/2015 9:04 AM, "Anastasios Tsiolakidis" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Stefan Pernar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My paper building on the subject has been accepted for presentation at >>>> the AGI Congerence Ben organizes in July in Berlin: >>>> http://rationalmorality.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/TranshumanPhilosophy_formatted.pdf >>>> >>> >>> >>> Isn't this a bit too long, considering the 10 page limit? Do I detect a >>> certain Judaism in the text? Surely will go down with Ben better than my >>> Christian references lol. >>> >>> AT >>> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/3869219-6583aa40> | >>> Modify <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> *AGI* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/27055757-c218d4f9> | >> Modify >> <https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;> >> Your Subscription <http://www.listbox.com> >> > > ------------------------------------------- AGI Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/21088071-f452e424 Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=21088071&id_secret=21088071-58d57657 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
