That definition is extremely arbitrary or specialized. What I meant was
that the -form- of the basis of definitions of applicableness and relevance
are somewhat arbitrary. Maybe they are extremely arbitrary as well. But the
question I am asking is whether we can actually look at words like this
using some relative forms for their definitions.

Jim Bromer

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jim Bromer <[email protected]> wrote:

> That is a somewhat arbitrary definition.
>
> Jim Bromer
>
> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Piaget Modeler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The Backstory:
>>
>> The reason for the analogy is that I was coding functions to transform a
>> search node during state space search.
>> An operator is *applicable *if the preconditions match a search node's
>>  state.  In which case we would *apply *the
>> operator to the state to get the next state.  An operator is *relevant *to
>> a search node if the operator's effects
>> match the goals of the search node.  Hence, depending upon whether we're
>> doing  progressive (forward) or
>> regressive (backward) search, we'd either call *Node_apply* or
>> *Node_relate*.
>>
>> Flash forward to today:
>>
>> Posed the question on Quora, Facebook and here, since I wanted a quick
>> response. "Relate" won.
>> Sent a complaint to Wolfram Alpha since they didn't understand similies
>> and I thought they should.
>> Their staff replied that they're looking into it.
>>
>> That is all.
>>
>> ~PM
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> From: [email protected]
>> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:08:59 +0200
>> Subject: Re: [agi] applicable : apply :: relevant : ?
>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Piaget Modeler <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Wolfram Alpha
>>
>>
>>
>> I am missing the point here, of course it could be tackled the narrow AI
>> way, but we are looking for something different, right? Are you trying to
>> outsource your analogies? Sell an analogy API? I think "in principle" the
>> analogy works when we can reuse a script, for example "compressing data is
>> like drying food, with a bit of time and technique you can use the original
>> while saving space and weight during transport and storage", and it would
>> take a bit of general intelligence to show all the different ways in which
>> the analogy does not work, just like so many of the analogies that dominate
>> our political debates.
>>
>> As always, it would be easier to derive or solve analogies with some kind
>> of logical decomposition, it would be a pity to waste the toolkit of
>> "physical primitives" in TRIZ, or the tentative search for "irreducible
>> cognitive dimensions" at CYC or yours truly. Which is more or less the
>> "thought vectors" that recently appeared in some patents. I believe the
>> main difference between the search for primitives and the new vectors is
>> that the vectors are more ad hoc, there is neither the assumption nor the
>> intention to look for irreducible quantities, fundamental symmetries etc,
>> the ambition is simply to capture as many parameters of a situation or a
>> concept in a vector and then "reason" with familiar algebraic tools.
>>
>> The discovery and application of anything that would look like "cognitive
>> DNA" would be the holy grail of AGI.
>>
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