Great synthesis Alan I agree 100%

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:08 AM, Alan Grimes <[email protected]> wrote:

> Okay, it seems that I should add some detail to my anti-uploading stance.
>
> I am not an uploader and I don't support uploading, especially with
> respect to myself.
>
> That said, there does seem to be two categories of uploaders.
>
> First, there are the "porch uploaders". These people see uploading as an
> alternative to death and see it as a means for getting another go-round.
> On balance, I don't have any problem with that. They see a choice
> between uploading and death, and if you accept that as a dichotomy, then
> it is reasonable to choose uploading. It is also reasonable to chose
> death in that case, but then it's more of a coin-flip or a value
> judgement. Porch uploaders do not have a specific teleology and do not
> propose anything that would negatively impact people who do not chose to
> upload. Because of that, I don't really care because it falls under
> morphological and neuromorphic freedom and should be treated as a basic
> right.
>
> The hard uploaders, on the other hand, have a very different outlook.
> They believe that uploading should be achieved as soon as possible, and
> implemented universally as soon as it can meet their definition of
> safety. They see no future for organic life, no alternate courses of
> evolution, no possibility for even any revision or improvement of their
> own meme-plex. They propose an absolutely cataclysmic teleology that
> would obliterate life as we know it, and everything we value in our
> current incarnations not only here on Earth but across the universe. =\
>
> It is this later group that I rail against because it precludes all
> other evolutionary paths and because it just plain sux. =\ It denies all
> ambitions that aren't scanning your brain into a computer simulation.
> Basically, if you don't work for a laboratory studying mind uploading,
> then whatever you are doing is merely killing time while you wait for
> the uploading research to complete and the singularity comes and uploads
> you and ushers in the "post upload era" where biological life will, at
> best, be keept around until it finally relents and allows itself to be
> uploaded. =(
>
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>
> Powers are not rights.
>
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