Is there a reason we couldn't just measure the frequency using a big corpus?

On 12/15/2015 3:33 AM, Steve Richfield wrote:
Hi,

Just to make sure we are starting on the same page, see the Wikipedia article about Zipf's law at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf's_law <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipf%27s_law>

In summary, this provides a formula to convert word ranking into approximate frequency of occurrence, which is VERY useful in identifying least frequently used words to trigger processing, etc.

Whatever formula someone might consider should sum to 1.0 over an infinite list of ranked words, as each word in a text appears SOMEWHERE in a ranking. However in reality, the story is more complex.

Looking at words in Wikipedia, frequency goes as 0.07/N (which does NOT converge for an infinite list of words) out to 10,000 or so, and then drops off considerably more rapidly so that the millionth-ranked word is nearly 2 orders of magnitude less frequent than it would if the linear relationship had continued. Apparently no one has (yet) done the math to fit this to SOMETHING that converges to a total frequency of 1.0.

I just HATE non-converging series.

Note that a simple formula that fits the ENTIRE Wikipedia curve can be had by simply substituting the formula 700/(N^2) for N>10^4

OK, so where does the magic 10,000 come from? THAT appears to be our basic vocabulary, beyond which various subgroups add their own specialized vocabularies, explaining the rapid drop-off after 10,000 words. A corpus other than Wikipedia that is an amalgamation of many disparate subjects would doubtless have a very different "curve" out beyond 10,000. It looks to me like the 3,000 word basic vocabulary picked the wrong number - they should have gone for 10,000 words.

This seems to also say a lot about language granularity - how finely we presume the construction of our universe to be. For those who think we are in some sort of simulation, this might say something about the precision of such a simulation, etc.

This seems to also say a lot about how much would be needed by an AI/AGI text "understanding" system - "understanding" somewhere beyond 10^4 words to be broadly useful.

Anyway - I saw some wisdom in these numbers, along with some mathematical shortfalls in the associated formulas that someone needs to be turn into equations that sum to 1.0

Thoughts?

/Steve/
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