Colin,

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Colin Hales <[email protected]> wrote:

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> You know the irony?
>
> Both Durand and Schiff visited us and became aware of my work on the
> fields in 2009-2012 ...
>
> And, like everyone else, they've got the physics wrong. And they
> completely miss the magnetic field. But that can be fixed.
>

Here's the problem - and YOU are a notable component in this...

There are some people like Durand and Schiff who don't think neurons can
compute with electric fields, but they DO believe that field might be
responsible for "wave" effects.

There are some people who see that electric fields probably ARE a
significant factor in computation, but who dismiss magnetic effects.

There are some people like YOU who see that magnetic effects probably
affect operation, but who dismiss the idea that neurons might be using the
Hall effect to do so, despite neuron size and construction closely
resembling Hall effect devices. OF COURSE channel impedance will
dramatically increase in the presence of a magnetic field, as moving ions
are steered into channel walls by the Hall effect. Further, magnetic field
from a linear conductor drops as 1/r and NOT 1/r^2, so OF COURSE a bundle
of neurons will dramatically affect each other by magnetic means. Imagine,
cabling being a MAJOR component every bit as powerful and mutual inhibition
- and I suspect in many cases is RESPONSIBLE for mutual inhibition.

Then there are people like ME who say that it is time to "do the math",
both the physics math to find out what is workable in wetware, and the
cognitive math to determine what would be useful in wetware, and only then
start expressing opinions as to what IS vs. what MIGHT CONCEIVABLY BE
happening. Sure their work is unscientific, but so is yours (and mine).
Things work however they work, regardless of your and my opinion. Let's
figure out how that actually is.

So, people like Durand, Schiff, myself, and others observe your comments
and believe you are misled - either in believing you presume too much (as
Durand and Schiff apparently believe), or in believing you presume too
little (as I believe), or believing you are on the right track but got
something wrong (as I suspect some others here might believe). So, they
write articles regarding what THEY believe (with little/no foundation)
without mentioning your beliefs that they believe are wrong.

There is a way to break this cycle. Write a book or article regarding ALL
of the field-related things that might be happening. Then, other authors
would HAVE to reference your article/book because their work would be one
of the methods mentioned therein.

*Steve*
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>
> cheers
> colin
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