Ben, Those that are watching are trying to pick up on good methodology and not for any subversive. Seems the U.S. Government is investing heavy into artificial intelligence... maybe they can apply it to the Artificial Stupidy of some Congress memmbers.
Dan Goe ---------------------------------------------------- >From : Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To : agi@v2.listbox.com Subject : Re: [agi] Who's watching us? Date : Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:09:14 -0500 > Based on my somewhat but not completely thorough understanding of the > US military/intel community (I live near DC, have done some consulting > for the community, and know a lot of folks involved with it), I find > it very unlikely that they are seriously pursuing AGI R&D. However, > *watching* people involved with AGI is a lot simpler to carry out, and > I have little doubt this is occurring. > > -- Ben > > On 12/19/05, Mark Horvath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I think this is natural. I would do the same, if my job would be to lead the > > creation of AGI in any group you have mentioned; try to collect the best > > brains, and monitor (and store) all important development happening. And > > they have more money for the job than any university, or other research > > facilities, groups. And also, I dont think they are publishing all their > > results, so they have a some advantage in creating the first AGI (but > > luckily there are a lot of civil competitors). > > > > I can only hope that at least the first AGI will be friendly (for all > > humanity, and not a company or state), since in general they will be selfish > > concerning their owner (except if regulated centrally, like by Asimov). > > > > Bests, > > Márk > > > > > > > > On 12/18/05, Shane Legg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > My AGI ideas continue to brew away, as they have done for many years. > > > I like to keep a fairly low profile for a few reasons, one being that > > every year > > > I realise how little I knew the previous year! I am however busy in my > > thesis > > > area of theoretical models of universal super intelligence (AIXI etc.) and > > so > > > publish and turn up in magazines etc. from time to time. I also write a > > blog > > > that gets a fair amount of daily traffic. > > > > > > Recently, however, it seems that I've somehow come to the attention of > > > certain groups. To start with I thought that the hits I was getting from > > various > > > military and military related companies were just random and part of the > > > growing number of hits that my blog and website were getting. But things > > > have since become more systematic, with military related aerospace > > > companies, various military bases and even a certain five sided building > > > doing automated scans of my research site, downloading my papers and > > > also scanning my blog. > > > > > > Yeah I know, that sounds crazy. I mean, if these people wanted to watch > > > me, they wouldn't be scanning my stuff using a computer with a Pentagon > > > or other high profile DNS addresses right? I'm sure that if they really > > wanted > > > to watch me they would be far more sneaky and I'd never know about it. > > > I can only presume that for what ever reason, they don't mind me knowing > > > that I'm being watched. I've also found out through other channels that I > > > have attracted some interest. So they aren't being very secret about it. > > > > > > Anyhow, I presume that the reason I'm attracting attention has something > > > to do with my research interests in models of super intelligence, AGI and > > > so on. I can't imagine that anything else about me could be of the > > slightest > > > interest to them at all. > > > > > > Which brings me to my question: Are we (people interested in AGI) > > > being watched? > > > > > > I'd always just presumed that we weren't considered very interesting, > > > at least, not yet. > > > > > > Shane > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your > > subscription, please go to > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your > > subscription, please go to > > http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ------- > To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, > please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED] ------- To unsubscribe, change your address, or temporarily deactivate your subscription, please go to http://v2.listbox.com/member/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
