On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 04:28:36AM +0800, Yan King Yin wrote:

> I have to agree that NN can represent all forms of knowledge, since our
> brains are NNs.  But figuring out how to do that in artificial systems must
> be pretty difficult.  I should also mention Ron Sun's work, he has

Actually all you need is a rich morphogenetic code which prewires your
virtual cortex, and hardware general and powerful enough to run
it in realtime, plus a virtual environment, and multiply this 
by a factor of 10^4..10^6 to contain a population. Let
evolution discover the rest: which types of small-integer automata,
which synapse types, connectivity pattern, its change over time.

A fabric of FPGA/memory cores would be enough today -- unfortunately,
it would require custom hardware, and thus be prohibitively expensive.

> long tried to reconcile neural and symbolic processing.  I studied NNs/ANNs
> for some time, but I recently switched camp to the more symbolic side.
> 
> One question is whether there is some definite advantage to using NNs
> instead of say, predicate logic.  Can you give an example of a thought, or a
> line of inference, etc, that the NN-type representation is particularly
> suited?  And that has a advantage over the predicate logic representation?

Getting a response to a complex stimulus within 50 ms.

> John McCarthy proposed that predicate logic can represent 'almost'
> everything.

Of course, but who's going to produce the VHDL for you?
 
> If NN-type representation is not necessarily required, then we should
> naturally use symbolic/logic representations since they are so much more
> convenient to program and to run on von Neumann hardware.

You can't make AI on von Neumann (in the general sense) hardware.
If you have 10^6 meshed cores it's no longer von-Neumann.

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