On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:49:47 +0000, Bob Mottram wrote > Some of the 3D reconstruction stuff being done now is quite impressive (I'm thinking of things like photosynth, monoSLAM and Moravec's stereo vision) and this kind of capability to take raw sensor data and turn it into useful 3D models which may then be cogitated upon would be a basic prerequisite for any AGI operating in the real world. I'm sure that these and other similar methods are soon destined to be fall into the bracket of being "no longer AI", instead being considered as just another computational tool. > > In the past I've tried many ad-hoc vision experiments, which would certainly come under the "narrow AI" label, but I now no longer believe that this kind of approach is a good way to proceed. Far more straightforward, albeit more computationally demanding, techniques give a general solution to the vision problem which is not highly specific to any particular kind of domain or environment. Under this system applications which are often treated separately, such as visual navigation and object recognition, actually turn out to be the same algorithm deployed on different spatial scales (maybe a classic case of physics envy!).
Well what is intelligence if not a collection of tools? One of the hardest problems is coming up with such tools that are generalizable across domains, but can't that just be a question of finding more tools that work well in a computer environment, instead of just finding the "ultimate principle". Ideas like gofai symbolic symbol manipulation and Bayesian decision networks seem to me to naturally just fit into the idea of part of an AI kit, but I personally would want this kit to be more compatible with the post AI techniques. Another example, that someone is using "AI" is often recognized by them using some kind of search instead of some algorithm, like gradient ascent or resolution, but there's not reason why a system can't throw multiple approaches at a problem, and maybe fall back on some general search when needed. And maybe that's why I think an AI's proper world is controlling a computer (ie. a PC), so it can just run programs whenever it needs to get things done. andi ----- This list is sponsored by AGIRI: http://www.agiri.org/email To unsubscribe or change your options, please go to: http://v2.listbox.com/member/?list_id=303
