--- "YKY (Yan King Yin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The point of patents is to reward the person to *first* invent something.

It would be nice if the patent system rewarded innovation, but it doesn't.  In
my work in data compression I deal with this all the time.  Patents discourage
innovation and progress.  If you come up with an innovative new algorithm, how
do you know that you are not infringing on somebody's patent?  Are you going
to go through all 2-3 million of them that haven't expired, or even the
hundreds of thousands dealing with computers?  Have you even read one patent
and tried to figure out what is claimed?  Even the USPTO can't do it.  For
example, they granted two separate patents on the LZW compression algorithm
(used in GIF images) to both IBM and Unisys, not realizing that both companies
were patenting the same invention.

Here is another example.  Because of patents, JPEG files are about 10% larger
now than they would be otherwise.  The standard covers a variety of coding
techniques, including both Huffman coding, which is not patented, and
arithmetic coding, which compresses smaller, but was covered at the time by
several patents (some now expired, some not).  As a result, the arithmetic
coding part of the standard was never implemented.  The bzip2 data compressor
was downgraded for the same reason.

When the JPEG standard was written in 1991, the spec listed all patents known
at the time, but how do you know?  In 2004, Forgent sued 31 large companies
for  infringing on their patent which covered the "invention" of assigning a
code to represent a run of zeros followed by a nonzero value.  After a long
court battle the USPTO eventually ruled there was prior art and invalidated
the relevant parts of the patent.  But if you are a small company, can you
afford to do this?

If you think you can read a patent and figure out if you are infringing, good
luck.  Only a judge can decide this, and the decision will probably be based
on which of two technical experts he thinks is lying.

Patents are good for lawyers.  It is the reason we have big companies like
MPEG-LA just to manage licensing for the 600 or so patents covering MPEG
video.

My PAQ data compressor uses arithmetic coding, and maybe some other methods
that may or may not be covered by patents.  If I wasn't giving it away, I
might care about this.



-- Matt Mahoney, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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