Well, how about privately sending me a few of those names. I know that Wittgenstein was pretty obnoxious after WW1, but I don't think that he made much substantial progress during that time. I think his most important work was written during the war, in the trenches I think. (I may be mistaken.) Jim Bromer
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:57 PM, Ben Goertzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree it is far nicer when advocates of theories are willing to gracefully > entertain constructive criticisms of their theories. > > However, historically, I'm not sure it's true that this sort of grace on the > part of a theorist is well-correlated with the ultimate success of that > theorist's theories. > > I can think of loads of gracious theorists with poor ideas, and loads of > obnoxious, overly-harsh, self-centered theorists whose ideas have ultimately > proved excellent ;-p > > -- ben g > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:53 PM, Jim Bromer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> We all know that no body of theories has yet solved the major AI >> problems that confront us at this time. >> >> I feel that the discussions about methodologies that may be >> theoretically sound or reasonable but not proven to be completely >> effective in application should include discussion about the potential >> problems that might be associated with them. >> >> If there have been some results gathered through testing, then we >> would all benefit with a discussion of some of the cases where the >> principles did not work properly. On the other hand, if there have >> not been enough experimental results from application problems to make >> insightful criticisms, then the proprietors and enthusiasts should >> have the intellectual integrity to express some of the reservations >> they may have had about their theories. This seems like a sensible >> working principle. >> >> That is not to say that an advocate has to accept all possible >> criticisms as being equal in value. But when an advocate is not able >> to present or acknowledge any reasonable criticism about his still >> unsubstantiated theories, it looks like a negative indicator about the >> generality and efficacy of those theories. >> >> I know that we all have to deal with criticisms. But using a critical >> examination of the theories or criticisms that you are advocating is a >> step higher than just defending your theories from any criticism. >> >> Jim Bromer >> >> >> ------------------------------------------- >> agi >> Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now >> RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ >> Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?&; >> Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com > > > > -- > Ben Goertzel, PhD > CEO, Novamente LLC and Biomind LLC > Director of Research, SIAI > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Nothing will ever be attempted if all possible objections must be first > overcome " - Dr Samuel Johnson > > > ________________________________ > agi | Archives | Modify Your Subscription ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=117534816-b15a34 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
