>but I don't want to discuss the details about the
>algorithms until I have gotten a chance to see if they work or not,

Hearing this makes my teeth gnash. GO AND IMPLEMENT THEM. THEN TELL US

On 10/15/08, Colin Hales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> David Hart wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 5:52 PM, Colin Hales
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     So you'll just have to wait. Sorry. I also have patent/IP issues.
>>
>>
>> Exactly what qualia am I expected to feel when you say the words
>> 'Intellectual Property'? (that's a rhetorical question, just in case
>> there was any doubt!)
>>
>> I'd like to suggest that the COMP=false thread be considered a
>> completely mis-placed, undebatable and dead topic on the AGI list.
>> Maybe people who like Chinese Rooms will sign up for the new
>> COMP=false list...
>>
>> -dave
> Hi,
> The attendees here would like to be involved in the parenthood of real
> AGI, yes?
>
> I am being rather forthright in scientifically suggesting an approach to
> that outcome focussed entirely on COMP may not achieve that goal, and
> that a diversity of views is needed...and I have a non-COMP approach
> which is possibly a way to AGI.
>
> I know may claims have not been scientifically backed up. I will fix that.
>
> The fact is - COMP has already been refuted twice in print. I will be
> adding 2 more refutations. That is already 2 counts that make term
> COMP-AGI  an oxymoron. COMP was always a conjecture and has never been
> proven. The only recent assessment in the literature ends with the words
> "Computationalism is dead".  Basic common sense dictates that if you are
> really keen on real AGI that is scientifically viable, then a diversity
> of approaches is advisable. According to Ben that seems to be the way of
> the group as a whole. I take some comfort from this. The  necessary
> diversity requires all manner of multidisciplinary scientists become
> interested and contribute. I intend to be one of those.
>
> So having 'shaken the tree' I'll leave it at that for now. I'll come
> back with publications to discuss and we can pick up the science of AGI
> from there. The first paper will be an objective test for
> P-consciousness in an artificial agent. A test I hope everyone's AGI
> candidates will be subjected to....so, back to work for me.
>
> enjoy.
>
> regards
> Colin Hales
>
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