This is a subject on which I have done a lot of talking to myself, since as Richard's paper implies, our own subjective experiences are among the most real things to us. And we have the most direct access to our own consciousness, and is since of richness, simultaneity, and meaning. I am also aware that much of what we feel we are aware of is an illusion, such as the example of the man in the gorilla suite walking unobserved in plain through a scene in which you are asked to count how many times a team passes a basketball back and forth, as mentioned recently under this thread by Mark Waser.
But if you read papers about the neural correlates of consciousness, you will find that some of them are based on reports from human subjects about whether or not that were aware of something or not, such as images, or sounds, or an answer to a question.pp -----Original Message----- From: Trent Waddington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 7:36 PM To: agi@v2.listbox.com Subject: Re: FW: [agi] A paper that actually does solve the problem of consciousness--correction On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Ed Porter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am talking about the type of awareness that we humans have when we say we > are "conscious" of something. You must talk to different humans to me. I've not had anyone use the word "conscious" around me in decades.. and usually they're either high or talking about AI (or both). Can you give some examples of their usage? Cause if you're going to talk about consciousness in terms of "you know, that thing" then I'd really like to be sure that we're both talking about the same thing. Trent ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?& Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=120640061-aded06 Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com