On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:01, Ed Murphy <emurph...@socal.rr.com> wrote:

> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2871a
>
> =================  Appeal 2871a (Interest Index = 0)  ==================
>
> Panelist:                               Tanner L. Swett
> Decision:
>
> Panelist:                               Taral
> Decision:
>
> Panelist:                               Yally
> Decision:
>
> ========================================================================
>
> History:
>
> Appeal initiated:                       04 Oct 2010 12:51:56 GMT
> Assigned to Tanner L. Swett (panelist): (as of this message)
> Assigned to Taral (panelist):           (as of this message)
> Assigned to Yally (panelist):           (as of this message)
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Appellant Murphy's Arguments:
>
> I intend, with 2 support, to appeal this judgement.  I request that
> the panel judge OVERRULE/FALSE without prejudice; omd's arguments
> are reasonable, but eir judgement does not match them, presumably
> due to a thinko.
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Appellant omd's Arguments:
>
> I support, oops.
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2871
>
> ===================  CFJ 2871 (Interest Index = 0)  ====================
>
>    There is a rule with ID number 2307
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Caller:                                 ais523
>
> Judge:                                  omd
> Judgement:                              TRUE
>
> Appeal:                                 2871a
> Decision:                               (pending)
>
> ========================================================================
>
> History:
>
> Called by ais523:                       26 Sep 2010 22:35:12 GMT
> Assigned to omd:                        03 Oct 2010 17:53:39 GMT
> Judged TRUE by omd:                     03 Oct 2010 19:59:57 GMT
> Appealed by Murphy:                     04 Oct 2010 00:52:23 GMT
> Appealed by omd:                        04 Oct 2010 03:55:55 GMT
> Appealed by Wooble:                     04 Oct 2010 12:51:56 GMT
> Appeal 2871a:                           04 Oct 2010 12:51:56 GMT
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Caller's Arguments:
>
> I CFJ on the statement "There is a rule with ID number 2307", as it's
> unclear to me from the text of rule 2307 whether it self-repeals upon
> the resolution of the decision, or Taral actually updating the decision.
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Caller's Evidence:
>
> the relevant paragraph of 2307:
> {{{
>      When the Agoran decision is resolved, if a Website Submission
>      was selected as the outcome, then its author is awarded two
>      Leadership Tokens and Taral SHOULD update http://agoranomic.org/
>      to reflect the winning Website Submission. Regardless of the
>      outcome, this rule then repeals itself.
> }}}
>
> ========================================================================
>
> Judge omd's Arguments:
>
> Since the word "then" comes in a clause that applies "regardless of
> the outcome", it cannot be interpreted to refer to an action (Taral
> updating http://agoranomic.org/) that is only mentioned in the context
> of one sort of outcome; instead, it must refer to "when the Agoran
> decision is resolved".  I suppose it might be argued that "its author
> is awarded two Leadership Tokens and Taral SHOULD..." is part of a
> process (which is null if a Website Submission was not selected as the
> outcome), and "then" refers to the end of the process, but under that
> interpretation, the rule would be assuming that Taral would indeed
> update the website, which doesn't make sense when eir requirement to
> do so is just a SHOULD.
>
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>

I opine OVERRULE/FALSE without prejudice.

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