I mean I support the moot. Sorry. On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I move reconsideration too. > > I also point my nose at VJ Rada and wiggle it for the crime of breaking > his pledgerino. > > So many crimes going on lol - y'all goddamn criminals, the lot of you. > > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 9:53 AM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I move reconsideration. >> >> I recuse myself. >> >> >> On Thursday, July 6, 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < >> p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> TTttPF >>> ---- >>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Jul 5, 2017, at 5:16 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < >>> p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > I move to enter this judgement into moot. >>> > ---- >>> > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>> > p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> On Jul 5, 2017, at 4:35 PM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> This contains my motion to reconsider and my >>> >> adressing your argument (although cursorily) >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 6:42 PM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> I move to reconsider (you can't, you cndan intend to move >>> >> and wait for two support. >>> >> >>> >> I'm judging this FALSE. GASP! Surprise rocks the nation. >>> >> I'm not judging it FALSE because auctioning is a regulated >>> >> action though. It seems to me that despite the auction >>> >> provisions, people could auction their own property >>> >> without breaching the rules. I'm judging it based on the fact >>> >> that Estate ownership is regulated, and CB's attempt to auction >>> >> off Estates owned by another entity (Agora) and person (Josh) >>> >> does not work. >>> >> >>> >> "A player who owns an Estate can and may transfer it to any >>> >> player, to any Organization, or to Agora, by announcement" >>> >> from rule 2489 regulates Estate ownership, as does the auction >>> >> provision. This, mixed with the fact that the ordinary meaning of >>> >> the word "Owner" means someone who can control their >>> >> property, precludes anyone from taking an Estate from its owner >>> >> or causing it to be taken from em, unless specifically authorized >>> >> by rule (such as the auction provision). >>> >> >>> >> CB raises the additional argument that an auction still can be >>> >> called even if the winner cannot have the property transferred >>> >> to them. Auction is undefined. The ordinary meaning is >>> >> "a public sale in which goods or property are sold to the highest >>> >> bidder.". A sale cannot exist unless the property is actually >>> >> given to the winner of the auction. I have already explained that >>> >> this cannot happen. Therefore, an auction has not been called >>> >> here. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Cuddle Beam <cuddleb...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> I motion to reconsider. >>> >> >>> >> Whether the winning bid can actually make a transfer or not shouldn't >>> affect if there is actually an *auction* or not in the first place, I >>> believe. >>> >> >>> >> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:14 AM, V.J Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> I'm judging this FALSE. GASP! Surprise rocks the nation. >>> >> I'm not judging it FALSE because auctioning is a regulated >>> >> action though. It seems to me that despite the auction >>> >> provisions, people could auction their own property >>> >> without breaching the rules. I'm judging it based on the fact >>> >> that Estate ownership is regulated, and CB's attempt to auction >>> >> off Estates owned by another entity (Agora) and person (Josh) >>> >> does not work. >>> >> >>> >> "A player who owns an Estate can and may transfer it to any >>> >> player, to any Organization, or to Agora, by announcement" >>> >> from rule 2489 regulates Estate ownership, as does the auction >>> >> provision. This, mixed with the fact that the ordinary meaning of >>> >> the word "Owner" means someone who can control their >>> >> property, precludes anyone from taking an Estate from its owner >>> >> or causing it to be taken from em, unless specifically authorized >>> >> by rule (such as the auction provision). >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:12 AM, Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> >>> wrote: >>> >> On Sun, 2017-07-02 at 02:21 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: >>> >>> The moment is ripe to attempt something like this, because it's >>> Auction >>> >>> time. Let's go: >>> >>> >>> >>> Putting Estates up to Auction is an unregulated action, much like >>> >>> withdrawing. (I don't personally believe this - because I believe all >>> >>> actions in the universe are Regulated - but many others do, so I'm >>> going >>> >>> off that). In case its of doubt, the following states an obligation >>> for the >>> >>> Surveyor to perform, so its not a description of "circumstances >>> under which >>> >>> the action would succeed or fail": >>> >>> >>> >>> "At the start of each month, if Agora owns at least one Estate, the >>> >>> Surveyor shall put one Estate which is owned by Agora up for >>> auction, by >>> >>> announcement. Each auction ends seven days after it begins." >>> >>> >>> >>> Additionally, the state of being in an auction or not is tracked by >>> nobody, >>> >>> so it doesn't infringe "would, as part of its effect, modify >>> information >>> >>> for which some player is required to be a recordkeepor" >>> >>> >>> >>> Therefore: >>> >>> >>> >>> - I put every Estate up for Auction, (even those owned by other >>> players, if >>> >>> possible). >>> >>> - I then bid a million shinies on each of them. >>> >>> - I then bid one shiny on each of them. >>> >>> >>> >>> I have absolutely no defense towards other people bidding more than a >>> >>> million and using my own "scam" to win auctions, which only works >>> versus >>> >>> the "conventional" way of winning them by bidding amounts of cash you >>> >>> actually own. >>> >>> >>> >>> I CFJ: "There is currently more than one auction for Estates" >>> >>> >>> >>> That's all. >>> >> >>> >> This is CFJ 3537. I assign it to V.J. Rada. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> ais523 >>> >> Arbitor >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >
