On Fri, 2017-09-29 at 11:08 +1000, VJ Rada wrote: > I intend, with Agoran Consent, to declare a new era, repealing all > ephemeral rules. > > That is, both of them. Victory by apathy and Trust Tokens. IMO. > they're kind of worthless. Apathy is useless bc if the game is really > dead you can propose yourself winner anyway. And Trust Tokens are not > exactly engaging gameplay.
I (unofficially, due to not being a player) object. Apathy should probably be non-ephemeral; it's a pretty useful scam release valve (giving scams against the dependent action system a way to do something useful without damaging the gamestate), and has already proven its worth once. It's not really expected to be something that players work their way towards, but rather something that exists in case it's needed. Meanwhile, I don't think Trust Tokens are doing much harm. (I imagine that if someone gets a couple of Tokens away from victory, they'll suddenly become a lot more relevant.) The rule also doesn't create any recordkeepor burden and is an entirely optional part of gameplay. The main issue with the rule is probably simply that it's too difficult; it was created in a time when there were many fewer active players than there are at the moment. -- ais523
