On Tue, 2008-10-21 at 16:17 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Oct 2008, Ian Kelly wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 2:29 PM, Alex Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I submit the following evidence on CFJ 2196:
> >>
> >> There now exists a nomic called "One True Agora", which can also be
> >> called "Agora". (Wooble created it a few minutes ago in ##nomic.)
> >
> > While that could complicate matters in general, it didn't exist when
> > the case was initiated, so it doesn't affect CFJ 2196.
>
> And anyway, don't these noobs due research? CFJ 1520. In fact CFJ 1520
> makes the second sentence of the rule in question entirely superfluous.
> -Goethe
>
That isn't exactly relevant here. I'd argue that without the second
sentence, the precedent of CFJ 1520 would indeed ensure that Agora was
not foreign. However, the second sentence specifically overrides the
first, implying that Agora is in fact a foreign nomic if it is not "One
True Agora". CFJ 1520 doesn't imply that it's impossible to just start
up a new nomic with that name and have it as a referent; I agree in
cases where a reference in the rules referred to something at the time
it was created, but in this case "One True Agora" had never referred to
anything.
--
ais523
