On 6/16/09 6:55 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Sean Hunt<ride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Paul VanKoughnett wrote:
>>     
>>> I agree to the following:
>>> {
>>> This is a Public Legalistic contract and a pledge, called Three Coins.
>>> Parties to Three Coins are called Marvy.  For the purposes of Three
>>> Coins, to Dance means to cast exactly one valid vote on an Agoran
>>> decision, and a Powerful Dance is a vote of PRESENT.  Any party to
>>> this contract may leave it by announcement.
>>> }
>>>
>>> I CFJ on the statement "It is ILLEGAL for me to vote for Quazie in the
>>> ongoing Janitor election."
>>>       
>> FALSE, R754 provides that contracts cannot alter the definitions of
>> words present in rules.
>>
>>
>>     
> Right, but these aren't defined, nor are they used in mathematical or
> legal contexts.  754(4) says that the ordinary-language meanings
> should be used (and even here, I'm not sure Marvy has an
> ordinary-language meaning other than a slang form of "Marvelous"), and
> contracts or lower-powered rules should be used for guidance.  So my
> contract is guiding the undefined term.  In fact, if I amended it to
> include all players in the definition of "Marvy," I think they might
> be bound by the interpretation it causes rule 2029 to have, even if
> they aren't parties to the contract.
>   
I don't think your attempt to define 'Marvy' does anything. (The judge,
after carefully considering the implications of using it as guidance,
will probably decide not to in the best interest of the game.) And,
well, "you who are marvellous" probably isn't a bad 'ordinary language'
interpretation. (Don't like that it's not a noun? Please direct your
complaint to Ozymandias c/o Mr Shelley.)

But, really, aren't you missing the bigger problem here? Namely, your
much sketchier attempts to redefine (through "guidance") the
ordinary-language word "Dance" to mean something very
unordinary-language-dancing-like and your attempt to redefin the word
'Powerful' to something rather unlike the rule-defined Power or the
ordinary language term 'Power'.

-woggle


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