Bucky wrote:

> It appears that omd's judgment on CfJ 2878 has self-ratified.  Rule 2201 
> (Self-ratification) does not consider an appeal to be a challenge to a 
> judicial declaration. (The CfJ itself is 'suspended', but that isn't 
> relevent)  
> 
> Also, note that the definition of "tortoise" doesn't require the judgment on 
> the inquiry case to be UNDECIDABLE, it just requires the statement itself to 
> be UNDECIDABLE.  Furthermore, judicial declarations are effective as of the 
> moment the CfJ was created; therefore, CfJ 2878 has been a tortoise for 
> roughly 20 days.
> 
> Therefore I explicitly make the following announcement:
> "This is a Win Announcement.  CfJ 2878 has continuously been a tortoise for 
> no greater than four and no less than two weeks.  This announcement's last 
> sentence is not factually correct."

A more detailed analysis:

  * omd's judgement of CFJ 2878 is not a judicial declaration, so it
    doesn't self-ratify.

  * Rule 2110 says "question of veracity is UNDECIDABLE", not "question
    of veracity is judged UNDECIDABLE".  Interpreting this literally,
    if CFJ 2878 is a tortoise, then it was one since it was initiated,
    regardless of omd's judgement or any appeal of said judgement.

  * Rule 2186 allows any person (not just a player) to win, but the
    win announcement is ineffective because it includes another
    self-contradiction and is thus not factually correct.

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