On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Elliott Hird wrote:
> On 16 February 2011 20:50, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> > Seeds decay (hoarding only semi-successful).  If decay
> > is exponential there can be a steady state but with bursts.
> >
> > Finally, every so often acorns go away, too (otherwise new players will
> > be left out after a bit).
> 
> ais makes a good point here:
> 
> "The issue is that in the erg-based economy, there was no real benefit
> for officekeeping at all; compare my officer activity in the Note era,
> where it gave permanent and useful gains, to the erg era, where it
> didn't; that's not a coincidence. G. always tries that sort of thing
> complaining about permanent buildup, etc.; we've done that a lot
> recently, and it doesn't seem to work well."

It's a fair cop.  But *ahem* [old-timer voice] this was based on 90% of my 
Agoran opinion-forming time being in the 2000-2004 Agoran Epoch which was 
stagnant and hoarding (at least it became that way by 2002, with a long two 
years of a stagnant money supply after that).  Then again, since there's so 
few of us left who remember that, I'm happy to not complain and try erring 
on the hoarding side for a bit.

Ergs were meant as a temporary stopgap from the last repeal as notes were 
getting old.  Didn't think apathy would keep them around as long as it did
at all.

> i.e., incentives for officekeeping only work if you can hoard the
> spoils and use them for your dastardly, dastardly* deeds in the
> future.

I think you misunderstand, by the way.  When I say "every so often", it's
much much LESS often then with Ergs that I have in mind.  Say quarterly or 
even annual adjustments.  Not weekly or even monthly; enough time to hoard 
but knowing you need to hatch your scheme within the next several months.

Since it's about game balance, a very, very good way is to soft-code
supply and decay and leave it up to officers within bounds; e.g. an officer 
can mint 1-5 of eir currency or decide to tax at a certain rate between 0 and 
20% and decide frequency (but no more frequent than once a quarter), and the 
officer's money supply policy becomes an election issue.  Real election issues 
are good! (remember the Poobah?)

-G.



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