On 09/28/2012 04:29 PM, Craig Daniel wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:23 PM, omd <c.ome...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>> Is "Abraham Lincoln" the name of a person?  Yes it is.
>>
>> I'd say it's arguable - well, maybe a clearer example, since dead
>> persons can be considered persons (but aren't in Agora), is whether
>> "Bill Clinton" is the name of a world leader: the answer depends on
>> the context of the question, but can easily be no, it's the name of a
>> former world leader, who doesn't enjoy the same privileges as a "real"
>> world leader.  I don't remember any CFJs related to this, do you have
>> one?
> 
> Ah, but at no point will the slave golem be a non-person. It will
> merely go from existing (as a person) to not, without passing through
> existence as a former person along the way. Mr. Clinton, meanwhile,
> still exists, and is not (currently) a world leader.

Is John F. Kennedy a world leader?

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